Troubleshooting WINE (Melodyne specifically)

[wolftune]

Ok, I decided not to give up after all.

According to somebody's test, they actually got Melodyne working in Linux:
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.p ... ngId=38035

But like this guy: http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?p ... b17a0dc4f8
I get a crash at the beginning.

I got farther than when I tried before. I was able to register successfully, and things look promising, but some crash happens after the load screen finishes and the app starts. Apparently, the guy in the forum didn't actually post a bug because I couldn't find any bug report listed anywhere.

WINE says not to post bugs unless I've tested with the latest development version. But I just have my one Linux system. Do I have to (or ought I) set up a whole additional Linux installation for testing purposes? Or is there an easy enough way to install the latest development version of WINE without losing anything and still able to fully return to my previous setup? Or no?

Is it worth trying Crossover or other options?

Being able to get just this working could mean I really could just switch mainly to Linux…

For reference, I'm running KXStudio 12.04.

Anyway, I guess I'm feeling more optimistic that the goals I have aren't impossible. But I'm wondering how much to be proactive, how much to be patient, and how to go about things.

All help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

P.S. Obviously I'd ideally like a Linux-native FLOSS program effectively replacing Melodyne, but there isn't even anything comparable in any way right now.

[studio32]

Is melodyne just about pitch switching?

http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/apps/all/zita-at1?s[]=pitch

[wolftune]

No, Melodyne is far more than just pitch switching.
Melodyne is so different from zita-at1 that there is no comparison.
It's barely worth discussing, but:
Zita is limited to just brute correcting pitch to only tempered tuning with no consideration of formant or anything else.
Melodyne is an extremely powerful tool with a full visual editing platform, tuning control to the cent, control of vibrato, glides, timing, formants, and much much more. It is a fine-detail professional editing tool.
I use Melodyne to do vocal editing with careful control for independence of attacks vs sustained parts of notes, control over degree of natural vibrato, timing editing, and tuning for Just Intonation and more.


Anyway, re: post by falkTX,
If I go with the Ubuntu-Wine PPA and install on my current system, do I risk messing up my current WINE install with no easy way to revert? If not, I'm happy to test things. I just want to make sure I don't lose what is already working and set up well… Thanks for the advice!

[wolftune]

Update:

Now everything in WINE is messed up! But I didn't mess it up by trying this. I found out BEFORE trying the development version that the programs that had worked before (at least certainly were working with WINE 1.4 and Ubuntu 11.10) are having the same fatal errors.

Here's what happens even with a program that worked flawlessly before:

WINE error

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and on one trial I got this:

another wine error

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Here's the error report:

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Unhandled exception: page fault on read access to 0x00000018 in 32-bit code (0x004b0f56).
Register dump:
 CS:0073 SS:007b DS:007b ES:007b FS:0033 GS:003b
 EIP:004b0f56 ESP:0033efa0 EBP:0033efa0 EFLAGS:00210246(  R- --  I  Z- -P- )
 EAX:00000000 EBX:00000000 ECX:01aec6d0 EDX:01aec6d0
 ESI:00000000 EDI:01aa9418
Stack dump:
0x0033efa0:  0033efd0 0091d05a 00000000 00000000
0x0033efb0:  0033efb0 004d1340 01aec6d0 0000ef00
0x0033efc0:  00000000 01aec6d0 00000000 0033efd8
0x0033efd0:  0033f258 00a9c8ca 00000000 00000000
0x0033efe0:  00000000 00000000 0033efe0 00796000
0x0033eff0:  7bca7ff4 00000000 7bc47503 00000000
Backtrace:
=>0 0x004b0f56 in tpxe-1r6x1 (+0xb0f56) (0x0033efa0)
  1 0x0091d05a (0x0033efd0)
  2 0x00a9c8ca (0x0033f258)
  3 0x00aa7072 (0x0033f5ec)
  4 0x00aa9165 (0x0033f60c)
  5 0x00aa8dc5 (0x0033f8c4)
  6 0x00a98d57 (0x0033f964)
  7 0x004e61b0 in tpxe-1r6x1 (+0xe61af) (0x0033f988)
  8 0x00947065 (0x0033fa14)
  9 0x004e7f54 in tpxe-1r6x1 (+0xe7f53) (0x0033fa2c)
  10 0x004e61f6 in tpxe-1r6x1 (+0xe61f5) (0x0033fa74)
  11 0x008b6c6a (0x0033faac)
  12 0x008b0261 (0x0033fae4)
  13 0x008b0402 (0x0033faf8)
  14 0x004e5f6c in tpxe-1r6x1 (+0xe5f6b) (0x0033fb04)
  15 0x008b7651 (0x0033fb24)
  16 0x008b04c2 (0x0033fb64)
  17 0x008b0024 (0x0033fb70)
  18 0x0046c37c in tpxe-1r6x1 (+0x6c37b) (0x0033fdd0)
  19 0x004e78ca in tpxe-1r6x1 (+0xe78c9) (0x0033fdd8)
  20 0x0055d319 in tpxe-1r6x1 (+0x15d318) (0x0033fe70)
  21 0x7b85b91c call_process_entry+0xb() in kernel32 (0x0033fe88)
  22 0x7b85cb8f in kernel32 (+0x4cb8e) (0x0033fec8)
  23 0x7bc71fc0 call_thread_func_wrapper+0xb() in ntdll (0x0033fed8)
  24 0x7bc74a9d call_thread_func+0x7c() in ntdll (0x0033ffa8)
  25 0x7bc71f9e RtlRaiseException+0x21() in ntdll (0x0033ffc8)
  26 0x7bc4a15e call_dll_entry_point+0x61d() in ntdll (0x0033ffe8)
0x004b0f56: cmpl	$0,0x18(%eax)
Modules:
Module	Address			Debug info	Name (111 modules)
PE	  350000-  360000	Deferred        mbsregistrationplugin16151
PE	  3d0000-  3ea000	Deferred        browser plugin
PE	  400000-  686000	Export          tpxe-1r6x1
PE	 1e40000- 1e52000	Deferred        internet encodings
PE	 1f70000- 1f8a000	Deferred        md5
PE	 21b0000- 21ca000	Deferred        shell
PE	 22e0000- 22f8000	Deferred        mbswindowsmidiplugin16151
PE	10000000-10024000	Deferred        appearance pak
PE	652c0000-65f0b000	Deferred        rbscript
ELF	7b800000-7ba30000	Dwarf           kernel32<elf>
  \-PE	7b810000-7ba30000	\               kernel32
ELF	7bc00000-7bcc4000	Dwarf           ntdll<elf>
  \-PE	7bc10000-7bcc4000	\               ntdll
ELF	7bf00000-7bf04000	Deferred        <wine-loader>
ELF	7d7b8000-7d846000	Deferred        msvcrt<elf>
  \-PE	7d7d0000-7d846000	\               msvcrt
ELF	7d846000-7d85a000	Deferred        psapi<elf>
  \-PE	7d850000-7d85a000	\               psapi
ELF	7d85a000-7d8b8000	Deferred        dbghelp<elf>
  \-PE	7d860000-7d8b8000	\               dbghelp
ELF	7d8b8000-7d8d2000	Deferred        imagehlp<elf>
  \-PE	7d8c0000-7d8d2000	\               imagehlp
ELF	7d8d2000-7d904000	Deferred        ws2_32<elf>
  \-PE	7d8e0000-7d904000	\               ws2_32
ELF	7d904000-7d91f000	Deferred        wsock32<elf>
  \-PE	7d910000-7d91f000	\               wsock32
ELF	7d91f000-7d928000	Deferred        librt.so.1
ELF	7d928000-7d92d000	Deferred        libgpg-error.so.0
ELF	7d92d000-7d945000	Deferred        libresolv.so.2
ELF	7d945000-7d949000	Deferred        libkeyutils.so.1
ELF	7d949000-7d992000	Deferred        libdbus-1.so.3
ELF	7d992000-7d9a4000	Deferred        libp11-kit.so.0
ELF	7d9a4000-7da29000	Deferred        libgcrypt.so.11
ELF	7da29000-7da3b000	Deferred        libtasn1.so.3
ELF	7da3b000-7da44000	Deferred        libkrb5support.so.0
ELF	7da44000-7da49000	Deferred        libcom_err.so.2
ELF	7da49000-7da71000	Deferred        libk5crypto.so.3
ELF	7da71000-7db40000	Deferred        libkrb5.so.3
ELF	7db40000-7db52000	Deferred        libavahi-client.so.3
ELF	7db52000-7db60000	Deferred        libavahi-common.so.3
ELF	7db60000-7dc24000	Deferred        libgnutls.so.26
ELF	7dc24000-7dc62000	Deferred        libgssapi_krb5.so.2
ELF	7dc62000-7dcb5000	Deferred        libcups.so.2
ELF	7dcbd000-7dcd0000	Deferred        gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so
ELF	7dce6000-7dd1a000	Deferred        uxtheme<elf>
  \-PE	7dcf0000-7dd1a000	\               uxtheme
ELF	7dd1a000-7dd20000	Deferred        libxfixes.so.3
ELF	7dd20000-7dd2b000	Deferred        libxcursor.so.1
ELF	7de60000-7de8a000	Deferred        libexpat.so.1
ELF	7de8a000-7debe000	Deferred        libfontconfig.so.1
ELF	7dfbe000-7dfce000	Deferred        libxi.so.6
ELF	7dfce000-7dfd2000	Deferred        libxcomposite.so.1
ELF	7dfd2000-7dfdb000	Deferred        libxrandr.so.2
ELF	7dfdb000-7dfe5000	Deferred        libxrender.so.1
ELF	7dfe5000-7dfeb000	Deferred        libxxf86vm.so.1
ELF	7dfeb000-7e00d000	Deferred        imm32<elf>
  \-PE	7dff0000-7e00d000	\               imm32
ELF	7e00d000-7e02e000	Deferred        libxcb.so.1
ELF	7e02e000-7e162000	Deferred        libx11.so.6
ELF	7e162000-7e1e9000	Deferred        winex11<elf>
  \-PE	7e170000-7e1e9000	\               winex11
ELF	7e1e9000-7e283000	Deferred        libfreetype.so.6
ELF	7e283000-7e392000	Deferred        oleaut32<elf>
  \-PE	7e2a0000-7e392000	\               oleaut32
ELF	7e3b4000-7e3b8000	Deferred        libxinerama.so.1
ELF	7e3b8000-7e3bf000	Deferred        libxdmcp.so.6
ELF	7e3bf000-7e3d9000	Deferred        libice.so.6
ELF	7e3d9000-7e3eb000	Deferred        libxext.so.6
ELF	7e406000-7e41c000	Deferred        libz.so.1
ELF	7e41d000-7e421000	Deferred        libxau.so.6
ELF	7e421000-7e427000	Deferred        libuuid.so.1
ELF	7e427000-7e430000	Deferred        libsm.so.6
ELF	7e437000-7e474000	Deferred        winspool<elf>
  \-PE	7e440000-7e474000	\               winspool
ELF	7e474000-7e4de000	Deferred        shlwapi<elf>
  \-PE	7e480000-7e4de000	\               shlwapi
ELF	7e4de000-7e6f2000	Deferred        shell32<elf>
  \-PE	7e4f0000-7e6f2000	\               shell32
ELF	7e6f2000-7e7d1000	Deferred        comdlg32<elf>
  \-PE	7e700000-7e7d1000	\               comdlg32
ELF	7e7d1000-7e7f3000	Deferred        iphlpapi<elf>
  \-PE	7e7e0000-7e7f3000	\               iphlpapi
ELF	7e7f3000-7e81b000	Deferred        msacm32<elf>
  \-PE	7e800000-7e81b000	\               msacm32
ELF	7e81b000-7e891000	Deferred        rpcrt4<elf>
  \-PE	7e830000-7e891000	\               rpcrt4
ELF	7e891000-7e999000	Deferred        ole32<elf>
  \-PE	7e8b0000-7e999000	\               ole32
ELF	7e999000-7ea46000	Deferred        winmm<elf>
  \-PE	7e9a0000-7ea46000	\               winmm
ELF	7ea46000-7eaa8000	Deferred        advapi32<elf>
  \-PE	7ea50000-7eaa8000	\               advapi32
ELF	7eaa8000-7eb67000	Deferred        gdi32<elf>
  \-PE	7eab0000-7eb67000	\               gdi32
ELF	7eb67000-7eca7000	Deferred        user32<elf>
  \-PE	7eb80000-7eca7000	\               user32
ELF	7eca7000-7eda0000	Deferred        comctl32<elf>
  \-PE	7ecb0000-7eda0000	\               comctl32
ELF	7eda0000-7edad000	Deferred        libnss_files.so.2
ELF	7edad000-7edb9000	Deferred        libnss_nis.so.2
ELF	7efb9000-7efe5000	Deferred        libm.so.6
ELF	7efe6000-7f000000	Deferred        libnsl.so.1
ELF	b7471000-b747a000	Deferred        libnss_compat.so.2
ELF	b747b000-b7480000	Deferred        libdl.so.2
ELF	b7480000-b7625000	Deferred        libc.so.6
ELF	b7626000-b7641000	Deferred        libpthread.so.0
ELF	b7643000-b765c000	Deferred        version<elf>
  \-PE	b7650000-b765c000	\               version
ELF	b765c000-b779e000	Dwarf           libwine.so.1
ELF	b77a0000-b77c2000	Deferred        ld-linux.so.2
ELF	b77c2000-b77c3000	Deferred        [vdso].so
Threads:
process  tid      prio (all id:s are in hex)
0000000e services.exe
	0000001f    0
	0000001e    0
	00000015    0
	00000010    0
	0000000f    0
00000012 winedevice.exe
	0000001c    0
	00000019    0
	00000014    0
	00000013    0
0000001a plugplay.exe
	00000020    0
	0000001d    0
	0000001b    0
00000021 explorer.exe
	00000022    0
00000023 (D) Z:\home\aaron\downloadedprograms\H-Pi\TPXE-WIN\TPXE-1r6x1.exe
	00000026    0
	00000025    0
	00000024    0 <==
System information:
    Wine build: wine-1.5.9
    Platform: i386
    Host system: Linux
    Host version: 3.2.0-27-generic-pae

Basically the same error happened when I was in WINE 1.4.1
And I tried to uninstall and reinstall WINE stuff, purging everything I could…

Some programs work in WINE still. One that used to be flawless now has glitchy sound but some sound. Other programs consistently crash, even though they worked before. There is nothing about my WINE setup that I think is special or matters. I'm at the point of wanting to just start fresh if necessary. I just want WINE working, at least as well as before. And I think that if I figure out what is going wrong, maybe Melodyne will work. It may be that Melodyne isn't the problem really. Or maybe trying Melodyne messed something up…

Some clarifications:
* I noticed at some point, BEFORE I had installed the WINE development version, that my apps, including the dysfunctioning Melodyne, were all gone from my WINE install, although I didn't uninstall them.
* Winecfg works perfectly still.
* I'm testing (and getting this crash) with a portable .exe app that doesn't require installation.
* I tried reinstalling software that worked before (Canta from http://singintune.org/) and it runs correctly, interface works etc. — but when when I try to quit nothing happens, and it hangs and has to be forced closed. That did not happen before…

[wolftune]

Ok, update:

I tried a lot of things, nothing seemed to work.
Then I tested some other programs and was surprised that they worked when they were basically the same as other that failed. Turns out WINE 1.4 ran the same file when it was in my downloads folder, but the new version requires it to be in the c drive Program Files.

Question is: how do I add a link so I can access the file easily? It isn't showing in WINE apps in the launcher. And when I run it from the c drive it works, but when I made a linked file in my documents folder, it had a Runtime error (even though I thought it would be identical!)

I can see the .exe file in my recently used documents, but I can't figure out how to make a link or launcher or command or something so I can run it in the future…

Finally, since I got a similar error running Melodyne as I got with this other program, maybe the same solution could work? Maybe it just needs files to be in certain places that are not currently right??

[wolftune]

Thanks! Now the old programs work portably again.
Everything works that ever worked.

Melodyne still crashes the same way though. Is there any change reinstalling Melodyne after doing the drive auto-detect would make a difference?

I'm still be grateful for whatever help gets Melodyne to actually work. It's about the one thing that really keeps me from doing most of my audio work in Linux…

[wolftune]

Another Melodyne update:

Someone from Crossover said they successfully ran the demo. Seems it's doable and there's something wrong with my system.
Same guy said: "I also noticed that installing the "Platform SDK Redistributable: GDI+" package into the same bottle solved some problems with non-existant text and odd button rendering, though the application ran slower after I did so."

And I did some more searching and found some other error logs from Melodyne:
one error: "no minidump @ C:/users/aaron/Temp/gnminidump.dmp"

And from a Melodyne log file:

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********** 01.08.2012 17:04
Cannot open file C:\Program Files\Celemony\Melodyne.3.2\Melodyne.pref (Lasterror 2)
********** 01.08.2012 17:04
Cannot open file H:\Melodyne.pref (Lasterror 2)
********** 01.08.2012 17:04
Could not open file 'C:\Program Files\Celemony\Melodyne.3.2\Melodyne.pref' (Lasterror 0)
********** 01.08.2012 17:04
Realexception GNFileException Cannot open Melodyne.pref.
********** 01.08.2012 17:04
PlugIn found.
********** 01.08.2012 17:04
Creating PlugIn instance...
********** 01.08.2012 17:04
... PlugIn instance created.
********** 01.08.2012 17:04

Celemony PlugIn Test succeeded.
********** 01.08.2012 17:04
DirectSound: Hardware format is: 2 channels of 16 bit at 44100 Hz
********** 01.08.2012 17:04
DirectSound: Hardware format is: 2 channels of 16 bit at 44100 Hz
********** 01.08.2012 17:04
PACEOpenProtectionFromBundle failed with error:4105
********** 01.08.2012 17:04
PACEOpenProtectionFromBundle failed with error:4105
********** 01.08.2012 17:04
PACEOpenProtectionFromBundle failed with error:4105

Maybe the PACE system is part of the problem? PACE makes the iLok, and Melodyne has an option to use it, but it does NOT require the iLok, it can use a different copy-protection thing instead, which is what I do.
Anyway, the fact that the demo runs for others indicates that it should be doable!

Any of these hints add anything?

[wolftune]

No I am not using an iLok! I have a legal ownership that uses a net-based authorization and DOES NOT require iLok. iLok is just an option that they include for those who choose it.
I expect that iLok would fail. But I'm NOT using the iLok option.

And to be clear, when I first ran Melodyne, it SUCCESSFULLY ran the over-the-internet authorization program, and my authorization of this machine is listed with my account on their website.

When I open Melodyne, all the start up works, and it crashes when it opens the main screen.

So it is all authorized, and that part I thought would be fine.

I guess I need to try a krack… just to do what is already legal and paid for? I suppose that's worth trying. But the authorization didn't seem to be the problem.

[wolftune]

OK, I tried a krack version I found online. All it was is a keygen licensing thing though along with the regular software. All it did was register the program. Again, I am not using iLok, that shouldn't be the issue, and the program successfully registered. I really think the problem has nothing to do with authorization. And anyway, other people report it working…

At this point, I'm guessing that the main problem has to do with the crash that Melodyne itself is reporting

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no minidump @ C:/users/aaron/Temp/gnminidump.dmp

Anyone know what that means?

[varpa]

I know nothing about Melodyne, but it appears to be looking for a file C:/users/aaron/Temp/gnminidump.dmp.
If you have Melodyne working on another platform you could look for a file of the same name and copy to the equivalent wine location which would likely be ~/.wine/drive_c/users/aaron/Temp/gnminidump.dmp. Or maybe his is a file Melodyne wants to create, but this directory does not exist on your system, in which case create it. Or contact some Melodyne forum or help to find out what this file is used for which might add some insight.

[wolftune]

Arg! I'm so confused and frustrated. I tried starting fresh to get Melodyne working again and now the other program TPXE is failing again! I thought that moving it to the programs folder solved it. Or that doing the winecfg to identify drives did it. It DID work just before!

So I've got two programs failing. And the error WINE gives is the same.
Did I have some winetricks thing set up? Does KXStudio DVD come with a WINE set up that is different from what I'd have if I just delete my prefix and start fresh?

I have this feeling that either I'm not successfully truly clearing everything to start fresh, or that there is something needing to be set or installed that I'm failing to do when I start fresh. I'd be grateful for any help about knowing that ALL wine stuff is truly gone or reset and then go from there…

I still don't know what the problem here is. And I'm not so sure the two programs are having the same problem. I'm pretty baffled.

varpa: I still like your suggestion, and I'll try that, but I want to get the program that WAS working fine back to working now!

[wolftune]

Ok, thanks. when would I need to reregister wineasio?

[wolftune]

And winetricks and whatever else? That's all totally clear when I delete the prefix?
I suppose I'll have to learn how to use winetricks for later troubleshooting.
Is there any chance that a Windows install program puts some file somewhere that persists even after deleting the prefix?