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Renoise and dssi ( and jack )
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:12 pm
by soundwave
This may sound a little complicated, but, is jack a necessity? I mean, i use renoise, and, since i dont have the need for low latencies, do i really need to use it?
My basic setup ( or workflow ) is that i use csound to render stuff to wav, then import it as a sample in renoise. That goes with field recordings, my own samples, etc. So, i dont need ultra low latencies, and i dont need to patch "cords", but i want to use dssi plugins, and dssi-vst. What would be something of a minimum requirements of apps that should work.
Can renoise load dssi-vst plugins by itself or do i need to use jack to patch thru or something third, i tried to read lot of articles but i got lost in the different setups...
Re: Renoise and dssi ( and jack )
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:49 pm
by t-sys
hi! DSSIs seem to work with Renoise also without running Jack, so I guess that, in principle, dssi-vst should work too.
However, my experiences with dssi-vst have been somewhat shaky. Some Windows VSTs have worked in Renoise/Linux while others not.
Also, as far as I know, chunks are still not supported, so saving VST presets with dssi-vst may not be possible. But Renoise has a nice feature of rendering a DSSI/VST instrument into native xrns format, which in a way solves the preset issue.
Re: Renoise and dssi ( and jack )
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:24 pm
by Capoeira
one reason I would use jack even when it's not necessary is that it indicates x-runs. Sometimes they are not realy obvious to hear
Re: Renoise and dssi ( and jack )
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:47 pm
by soundwave
Thanks, so i will try with jack. jack1 or jack2?
Also, why renoise sees my plugins ( the ones from the "tal" bundle and kxplugins ) while scanning, but fails to add them?
Re: Renoise and dssi ( and jack )
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:26 am
by autostatic
Those are LinuxVST plugins. My guess is that Renoise can't handle native Linux VST's.
Re: Renoise and dssi ( and jack )
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:27 pm
by t-sys
Renoise does support native Linux VSTs and Tal plugins work ok here with 64-bit Ubuntu. Maybe Renoise forum could help too, e.g. here:
http://www.renoise.com/board/index.php?showtopic=27843
Both jack1 or jack2 should do. I've got better results with jack2 from falktx repos.
Re: Renoise and dssi ( and jack )
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:54 pm
by soundwave
Still no luck :S I dont know wtf i am doing wrong, but, i cant even add falTX's ppa? Im using maverick,that may be a prob? Tried KXStudio but KDE does not like my poor hardware
Re: Renoise and dssi ( and jack )
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:29 am
by t-sys
Yes, those falktx repos are for Lucid.
Maybe you could try with fresh install of Ubuntu or Lubuntu (Lucid). Another lightweight option is Ubuntu Minimal 10.04 with lxde desktop:
http://tapanisysimetsa.blogspot.com/201 ... on_10.html
There are also instructions for setting up the repos, they should apply with regular (L)Ubuntu too (section 3).