Libre Music Challenge #28: Octasine

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Libre Music Challenge #28: Octasine

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Welcome to the Libre Music Challenge #28, for the month of March 2024.

The deadline for this month's challenge extends one extra day to the end of the Easter holidays, Monday 1st April.

This is a friendly contest where we make music with free (libre) software exclusively. Everyone is welcome to join, at any skill level.
This is a place for learning and sharing knowledge, and an opportunity to explore creativity through limitation.
But most importantly, we just hope it inspires you to make some music!

The challenge for this month is to make a track with Octasine as your only sound source.
You can find it here: https://www.octasine.com/

You can use any DAW and any other effect plugin, as long as everything is free software.

Happy music making!


Rules

Rules are the same as the previous challenges.

You can find them here for convenience: https://lmc.nyxkn.org/rules
Or here under version control: https://github.com/nyxkn/libre-music-ch ... a/rules.md

Links

Playlists and results of all the events: https://lmc.nyxkn.org/events

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Re: Libre Music Challenge #28: Octasine

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Hey friends,

here is my submission:
https://soundcloud.com/mylofymusic/rusty-waves
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Zrythm project files (6.6 MB): https://mark.nl.tab.digital/s/9BaETwgj8npGPnd

Screencast: https://diode.zone/w/eZp79mfGAGBXNmmYZMZWK6

29 instances of Octasine.
Effect Plugins:

  • LSP Parametric EQ
  • LSP GOTT Compressor
  • Dragonfly Hall Reverb
  • LSP Gate
  • ZaMultiCompX2
  • Spectral Compressor
  • Wolf Shaper
  • ToTape5
  • ToTape6
  • Calf Vintage Delay
  • Galactic
  • LSP Sidechain Compressor
  • CardinalFX

Master Chain:

  • LSP Parametric EQ
  • ToTape5
  • LSP Multiband Clipper
  • Dragonfly Hall Reverb
  • LSP Compressor
  • x42-dpl
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Re: Libre Music Challenge #28: Octasine

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There was no particular inspiration for this song. Just me trying to make something that sounded decent in octasine.

Here is the audio file:
https://soundcloud.com/trumpetrespas/tr ... al_sharing

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Plugins used:
 - Octasine
 - Dyson Compressor (Included in radium)

Here are my project files:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/7s9yud4s ... 8.rad/file

Have a good one :D

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Re: Libre Music Challenge #28: Octasine

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Find my entry below.

  • Title: Revolution
  • Render: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/asubl ... ution.flac
  • Session: https://github.com/asublin/asublin-comp ... Revolution
  • Made with: Ardour + 17 instances of OctaSine + DragonFly + Calf effects.
  • Trivia: Once an evening working on the song, getting the main ideas in place and feeling enthusiastic about it, I thought I would reward myself with a night long of podcasts about conspiracy theories (I know, I don't believe them all, far from it, but I find that entertaining, sorry). Likely as a result, I dreamed about how we would come together as a people and overthrow our corrupt governments (in my dream that is, I don't advocate violence) and that music was constantly playing in my head during the dream. When I woke up I was still enamored with the emotion of the dream and its connection to the music. The title was thus inevitable.
  • Thanks to: Spotlight Kid for sharing his OctaSine presets. The song would likely not have been possible without these presets.
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Re: Libre Music Challenge #28: Octasine

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asublin wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:22 pm
  • Thanks to: Spotlight Kid for sharing his OctaSine presets. The song would likely not have been possible without these presets.

Where are the Spotlight Kid's presets?

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Re: Libre Music Challenge #28: Octasine

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miuzik wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 4:29 am
asublin wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:22 pm
  • Thanks to: Spotlight Kid for sharing his OctaSine presets. The song would likely not have been possible without these presets.

Where are the Spotlight Kid's presets?

https://0x20.eu/nc/s/QZggFSp8DwENZsj

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Re: Libre Music Challenge #28: Octasine

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Here's my entry:

https://soundcloud.com/nyxeles/rapture

Made with Ardour 8.4. Attached project.

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CNT | TYPE | NAME
  2 * Lua    ACE High/Low Pass Filter (by Ardour Community)
  1 * LV2    LSP Oscilloscope x1 (by LSP LV2)
  1 * LV2    x42-dpl - Digital Peak Limiter Stereo (by Robin Gareus)
  1 * LV2    LSP Parametric Equalizer x8 Stereo (by LSP LV2)
  2 * LV2    Dragonfly Hall Reverb (by Michael Willis and Rob vd Berg)
  1 * VST3   Fire (by Wings)
  2 * LV2    x42-comp - Dynamic Compressor Stereo (by Robin Gareus)
  2 * Lua    ACE Amplifier (by Ardour Community)
  1 * VST2   Argotlunar (by Michael Ourednik)
  1 * LV2    ACE Delay (by Ardour Community)
  1 * LV2    x42-eq - Parametric Equalizer Stereo (by Robin Gareus)
 24 * VST2   OctaSine v0.9 (by Joakim Frostegard)
  1 * LV2    LSP Spectrum Analyzer x1 (by LSP LV2)
  4 * LV2    MIDI Transpose (by Filipe Coelho)
  1 * LV2    TAP AutoPanner (by MOD Team)
  6 * LV2    LSP Parametric Equalizer x16 Stereo (by LSP LV2)
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Re: Libre Music Challenge #28: Octasine

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Here's my submission:

Artist: Spotlight Kyd
Title: It's Late
FLAC File (on my Nextcloud): https://0x20.eu/nc/s/7Bd4SXtpFdAi2wS
SoundCloud: to be done...
Ardour project archive: https://0x20.eu/nc/s/Tg8FsDnkz2Fow5G

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| Cnt | Type | Plugin                                                 |
| --- | ---- | ------------------------------------------------------ |
| 15  | VST2 | OctaSine v0.9 (by Joakim Frostegard)                   |
| 8   | LV2  | x42-eq - Parametric Equalizer Stereo (by Robin Gareus) |
| 2   | LV2  | x42-eq - Parametric Equalizer Mono (by Robin Gareus)   |
| 6   | LV2  | StereoCrossDelay (by chrisarndt.de)                    |
| 4   | LV2  | ACE Compressor (stereo) (by Ardour Community)          |
| 1   | LV2  | ACE Compressor (by Ardour Community)                   |
| 3   | LV2  | CChorus (by chrisarndt.de)                             |
| 2   | VST3 | CHOWTapeModel (by chowdsp)                             |
| 1   | LV2  | CHOWTapeModel (by chowdsp)                             |
| 2   | LV2  | Neural Amp Modeler (by Mike Oliphant)                  |
| 1   | LV2  | ACE Delay (by Ardour Community)                        |
| 1   | LV2  | Comb Filter (by Steve Harris)                          |
| 1   | LV2  | Diode Ladder LPF (by chrisarndt.de)                    |
| 1   | LV2  | GxCompressor (by Guitarix team)                        |
| 1   | LV2  | GxCreamMachine (by Guitarix team)                      |
| 1   | LV2  | GxFuzz (by Guitarix team)                              |
| 1   | LV2  | GxTubeScreamer (by Guitarix team)                      |
| 1   | VST2 | Impulse Reverb Stereo (by LSP VST)                     |
| 1   | LV2  | LSP Impulse Responses Mono (by LSP LV2)                |
| 1   | LV2  | LSP Spectrum Analyzer x1 (by LSP LV2)                  |
| 1   | LV2  | MIDI Sys Filter (by chrisarndt.de)                     |
| 1   | LV2  | MIDI Transpose (by Filipe Coelho)                      |
| 1   | LV2  | Scannervibrato (by Jakob Dübel)                        |
| 1   | LV2  | Simple Scope (Stereo) (by Robin Gareus)                |
| 1   | LV2  | ZaMultiCompX2 (by Damien Zammit)                       |
  
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Re: Libre Music Challenge #28: Octasine

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Hey @SpotlightKid, thanks for the SC comment! You asked for the crash cymbal, here is how I designed it:

  • In octasine I combinded three frequency modulated triangle waves with noise
  • then a good amount of reverb to give it some realism (dragonfly hall)
  • Cymbals mostly have frequency gaps in the spectrum, which I try to emulate with eq notches or tight cuts (LSP parametric eq)

The project files are in my submission post for your review, here's a screenshot in case you don't have zrythm installed:
https://mark.nl.tab.digital/s/DBCZLCY4YkWaanT

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Re: Libre Music Challenge #28: Octasine

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Please find my feedback below.

  • A-Lin - Revolution: TODO: rip off MyLoFy cymbal preset and add it at the start the chorus.
  • MyLoFy - Rusty Waves: Excellent production as usual. Very musical, I like it a lot. The glitchy part at the end is excellent too.
  • Spotlight Kyd - It's Late: Excellent composition as usual. Excellent use of portamento and vibrato. Look mum, no quantization!
  • trumpetrespas - idk what to call this song: That's rough. The pure waves are a bit hurting my ears. The counterpoint is far from perfect but probably improving (did you get a chance to look at Fux's counterpoint theory?). I think the worst aspect are the presets. Though I salute you for likely attempting to program the OctaSine yourself.
  • nyxeles - Rapture: Nice atmosphere. Nice sounds, very FM-ish. Nice portamentos. Could fit very well the exploratory phase of a video game.
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Re: Libre Music Challenge #28: Octasine

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asublin wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:01 pm

Look mum, no quantization!

Ain't nobody got time for that! :wink: :lol:

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Re: Libre Music Challenge #28: Octasine

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All submissions are in, and voting is now open!

Here's the playlist: https://archive.org/details/libre-music-challenge-28

For the voting, head on over to https://lmc.nyxkn.org/vote. Use your linuxmusicians username to log in. You'll find more instructions on the page.

As usual, on top of voting, you're encouraged to post some feedback on the songs here on the forums.

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Re: Libre Music Challenge #28: Octasine

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Here's some feedback from me on this month's submissions:

LibreMusicChallenge #28: OctaSine - Review

A-Lin - Revolution

  • Composition
    • Chord changes simple but with enough unusual choices to keep interest
    • Main melody doesn't stick in your head much but is pleasant, maybe too many big interval jumps. The melody from ~ 01:52 and ~ 03:00 is a good hook.
    • Bass parts are a bit un-inventive.
  • Sound Design
    • Some obvious FM-y sounds, like the bell at 2:30, which is fitting for the challenge.
    • Nice saw strings/pads
    • Vibrato on the lead sounds gives them a nice melancholic quality.
    • Snare has too much noise.
    • I like the snare rim-shots with delay.
    • I think I know were these toms came from ;)
  • Production
    • Striking but clean reverb sound
    • Good subtle use of panning
    • Drum fills bring some liveliness into an otherwise very quantised feel.
    • Good progression of density of arrangement and weight of parts
    • Generally many (too many?) high-frequency elements and not much in the mid-range, so it all sounds rather pristine and maybe somewhat cold.
  • Atmosphere
    • This sounds melancholic but bitter-sweet to me.
    • Maybe "elegiac" is the right word.
    • I don't understand the relation too the title, though ;)

MyLoFy - Rusty Waves

  • Composition
    • MyLoFy is a master of bringing interest to a simple chord vamp or progression, but I sometimes feel his songs are going nowhere and I do like music with a story.
    • The lead line introduced first at ~ 0:45 is the most memorable element and it's good that we get a few variations of this.
  • Execution
    • Flawless.
  • Sound Design
    • This is just excellent, so many SFX, bleeps, sweeps and stabs...
    • Especially that crash sound!
    • Some sounds have a grainy texture to them, which I like.
  • Production
    • There is *a lot * happening in this track, IMO too much, it gets too gimick-y after some time.
    • All the individual SFX are great, though.
    • A lot of work must have gone into the precise timing of all these effects.
    • Too much loudness optimisation for my taste
  • Atmosphere
    • This is very playful, even showing off.
    • Interesting mix of vintage sounds and modern "hyper"-production elements

Trumpetrespas - Idk What To Call This Song

  • Composition
    • Lead melodies don't leave any space and are meandering without any pauses.
    • Hi-Hat changes from quarter to eighth notes at a seemingly arbitrary point.
    • There is some sense of progression as additional arrangement elements come in and drop out again, but it all is rather aimless.
  • Sound Design
    • Very basic
    • More effort should have gone into making the sounds less penetrating.
  • Production
    • Lead sounds way to loud.
    • There seems to be no post-processing with any effects at all
  • Atmosphere
    • Look ma, I bought this old Soundblaster keyboard at Walmart!

Nyx Eles - Rapture

  • Composition
    • Atmosphere more important than composition here, I think.
    • Simple scale or interval-based lead elements, which gain interest by layering and juxtaposition.
  • Sound Design
    • Most sounds instantly recognisable as FM
    • I like the combination of the droney pad and the pitch-bendy lead starting at ~ 00:57
  • Production
    • Good sounding but rather bare-bones
    • Seems more a sketch than a fully fleshed out track.
  • Atmosphere
    • I get a feeling of despondency rather than "Rapture".

Spotlight Kyd - It's Late

My submission was put together rather quickly (for me) in two days without much pre-planning.

The inspiration, maybe somewhat surprising, came from one of Chopin's Preludes. I was trying to find a similar minor-chord-based bass line as one of the slower preludes has and for that I needed a piano-like sound in OctaSine. Wurlitzer sounds are rather easy to make with FM synths, so I quickly came up with a rather good sounding one, I think.

If you add chorus to such a sound and play minor chords in eighth notes, it automatically sounds like Supertramp, so I followed that avenue and decided to use mostly sounds, which try to emulate "real" instruments.

After I had a basic chord progression and arrangement for the intro and verse, I experimented with different instrument sounds for a lead melody, e.g. some saxophone or oboe-like sounds and synthy leads. For that I tried to use my Akai EWI wind controller, which ended up being used for the horn/synth-brass sound in the intro.

I then decided to try to make some guitar sounds in OctaSine and when I put that through Neural Amp Modeller with a Fender Amp model, I got this Telecaster-like sound, which "clicked". I tried to use my Fishman TriplePlay guitar-to-MIDI adapter, but it didn't work that well and since I was in a hurry, I played the guitar parts just with the keyboard of my Yamaha MODX and its pitch wheel.

By that time it was already late Monday evening, so I had to finish up quickly, which is why the production and mixing is very rough and basic. There are still lots of timing errors and sloppily executed edits, and if I have had more time, I would have probably done many things differently (e.g. the drums sound much too electronic for the style of the track, IMO), but it is what it is now.

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Re: Libre Music Challenge #28: Octasine

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Hey there,

thanks for the detailed review of the tracks @asublin and @SpotlightKid, I'll try to give my 2¢ here as well. Got a pesky cold blocking my ears, but I'll give it my best

A-Lin - Revolution
A dynamic track, not only acoustically, but also regarding the composition. Very good mix, well balanced, the use of reverb is also dynamic and creative. Nice stereo stage. The sound design is basic, though the simpleness of the drums fit the track, enhanced by the clever use of the reverb. Love the toms.

Spotlight Kyd - It's late
Sounds like a soundtrack demo made with general MIDI, the sound design clearly aims for the typical FM sounds. My favourites are the organ and the e-piano, which is just wonderful. The lead guitar is nice, but shouldn't fill the complete track, some diversity or dialogue with other instruments would be a relief. Drums are missing punch and are too far in the back for my taste. Considering this was done in a very short time the result is pretty good though!

Trumpetrespas - idk what to call this song
Sticking to Radium, great! There seems to be a lot of clipping on the tracks, the gain stage perhaps is set to high. I like the two leads and how they interact with the bass. The sound design is very basic, clearly also due to lack of time. But it shows very well one major problem with the synth: The high frequencies are hard to control without filters and stack up over the tracks, which makes it sound unbalanced and harsh.

Nyx Eles - Rapture
First thing I noticed was the decent swing in the rhythm, we don't hear that very often, nice! Some cool effects like the rolling portamiento. Very good percussive sounds, marimba-like or with more metallic flavour. The composition is more a draft. But we all face the similar problem, the lack time: Some components of a track just need to be put aside and won't even be touched anymore when the time runs out.

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Re: Libre Music Challenge #28: Octasine

Post by trumpetrespas »

I wanted to thank everybody for the feedback. I know my track was low quality, I didn't have much time to work on it last month.

About Fux's counterpoint theory. I looked it up, but I'm having a difficult time understanding it at the moment. I think I'll research it more. I know very little music theory, but I am continuing to learn more.

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