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I just had a funny thought, and am wondering about it.

I ones had steem installed and currently have Hatari installed.

How hard can it be the to get cubase 1 ? working ?

Hatari is an AtariST emulator.....

From Cubase on the AtariST export midi, after doing groove quantization?

I am off at a good start, when I try to start Hatari, it complains about not being able find an tos.img.

An tos image is basically the rom. The Atari ST had the os (TOS) in two ROM chips.

TOS has this rumor, that it stand for either The Operating System or Tramiel operating system. Jack Tramiel, who left Comodore (Amiga)

Slightly off topic the Atari ST was sold as ms dos compatible. The one thing it could do, was read ms-DOS floppies. (and windows floppies, but only the 720 kb ones)

Who would have guessed that one day I would regret throwing away my Atari Mega ST2. ( mega because 2 MB of ram )

I did have Cubase, but even if I had not thrown it away, I doubt the floppy would still have worked.
That floppy would have been about 30 years old.
But:

http://www.oldschooldaw.com/forums/inde ... pic=3416.0

Cubase is from what I have read, the oldest DAW, that still exists today.

For those who do not read the Ardour forum.
When I asked for GQ in Ardour, I learned from Paul Davies, that Cubase never released the templates. (groove templates)

Never give up never surrender, what I hope to achieve is to see, what happens in Cubase.

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From Cubase on the AtariST export midi, after doing groove quantization? :P

You could try that, but maybe it's easier to download a groove template and import that into a sequencer?
Found some grooves here: https://www.goldbaby.co.nz/freestuff.html
Imported one into Stochas:

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Thank you and yes that seems a lot easier.

Today saw a you-tube vid from a Cubase user.
That basically answered all my last questions.

Cubase the quantize options, also has a random knob.
Very handy for working on the velocity of midi notes.
Then there is also quantize, to a groove.

Also read an interview with somebody who made a few drum computers.

I now at least start to understand, swing and groove quantization. To sum it up, its all about moving midi notes slightly off grid.

You should according to the drum machine guy, always use logical steps. 1/8, 1/16 and 1/32.

Roger Linn, inventor of swing and quantisation, designer of the ground-breaking Linn sample-based drum machines, the Akai MPC60 and MPC3000 and the DSI Tempest.

(I think I saw something in Ardour which points to those drum computers)

https://www.attackmagazine.com/features ... pc-timing/

I also downloaded grooves from mars. Its free, but you need to give your address and email.
I made up an address and postal-code and got the grooves. It seems to be for mac, but I saw midi files in there, fingers crossed.

Because I watched many Cubase vids, I saw stuff I did not even knew I was missing.
Draw in midi notes into a sound file.
Its how you extract grooves from a sound file.
Cubase even seems to know what note is played.

I will have to learn Ardour and start to use drum plugins, to progress,

There is hope for swing in LMMS, but there is no easy way for me to sync the drums to a life played guitar, in LMMS.
Can we complain about free a program? Well I definitely need at least more drum samples.

I will be easier to just use drum plugins.
I saw one named after Led Zeppelin.
The Red Zeppelin Drumkit.

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I will be easier to just use drum plugins.
I saw one named after Led Zeppelin.
The Red Zeppelin Drumkit.

Red Zeppelin is from AVL-drums by @G-Maq. AVL-drums contains no less than three drumkits. Their GUI is also very well done, very enlightening for a non-drummer as me to actually see what's going on.

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Yeah I am not a drummer either although my sense for rhythm is quit good.

My trouble already starts with knowing the different drums, and what to do with them.
With that drumkit, I can watch vids of drummers, and just do as they do.

I do not know what music that American likes in general, but its definitely not disco / house / EDM.

Fun fact ? I just need to make melodic house. There seems to be no swing in that. Maybe thats why I am not really a fan of that type of EDM.
One site claimed house has no swing either, but I doubt this very much to be true.

Funk disco and, House are at least inspired by black music.
A good example is also hip hop. Hip Hop and (old school) House have something in common, the use of samples.
Those samples are for 95 % from Soul and Jazz music.

The difference between house and hip hop is mostly in the drum pattern.
House 4 to the floor, Hip hip not 4 to the floor.

I found a nice drum pattern to start with. (and I am probably gonna regret this)
Led Zepplin when the levy breaks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kMPnXB ... MillsDrums

But I do need to get into blues / rock drum patterns.

Been wondering about Ardour for some time now, mostly because of the plugins I can use in Ardour but not in LMMS. (LV2)

I was also reading the LMMS github, and groove quantization and such seems to be frozen in time.
Although, there is hope, there is a post from december 2023, were somebody seems to be working on it.

LV2 support is also being worked on, but I am starting to loose patience.
For how may years now, can Ardour already load LV2 plugins?

https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/issues/1091
A post by teknopaul, Dec 20 2023, and I think he spells triplets wrong.

There is even flam, a drum term I learned recently.

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The grooves from mars files I cant open.

Both LMMS and Ardour refuse to open the midi ? file.

Thank god I did not pay a dime for it.

[Impostor]

The grooves from mars files I cant open.

Both LMMS and Ardour refuse to open the midi ? file.

Thank god I did not pay a dime for it.

Stochas imports them alright.

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I just had a look with YAST, and found Stochas, I am curious.

This is the discription:

stochas - Advanced probabilistic polyrhythmic sequencer
Stochas is at it’s core a step sequencer, which means it generates MIDI notes. As such it does not generate any sound of it’s own but can be used to sequence other plugins and/or hardware synthesizers. Although it can be used for basic step sequencing, it’s main function is to provide randomness to the step sequencing process.

There is also a LV2 version, which I maybe can load in Ardour ?

But I will see, it looks like something I was looking for.

openSUSE often surprises me, by having software like this.
There must be a lot more people on opensuse that are into music making, then I was assuming.

I mean how many here think of opensuse when were talking music, yet it does have a pro audio repository.

[Impostor]

There is also a LV2 version, which I maybe can load in Ardour ?

Downloading the binary package from https://github.com/surge-synthesizer/st ... ag/v1.3.10 just gives a vst3 and a standalone. If you build it yourself you can get clap and vst2 format too. I know of no lv2 version.

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openSUSE often surprises me, by having software like this.
There must be a lot more people on opensuse that are into music making, then I was assuming.

I mean how many here think of opensuse when were talking music, yet it does have a pro audio repository.

If you have @Kott doing the packaging it shouldn't be surprising.

[Gps]

There is also a LV2 version, which I maybe can load in Ardour ?

Downloading the binary package from https://github.com/surge-synthesizer/st ... ag/v1.3.10 just gives a vst3 and a standalone. If you build it yourself you can get clap and vst2 format too. I know of no lv2 version.

I hope I wont make you switch to suse

https://imgur.com/gallery/sg2kiJA

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openSUSE often surprises me, by having software like this.
There must be a lot more people on opensuse that are into music making, then I was assuming.

I mean how many here think of opensuse when were talking music, yet it does have a pro audio repository.

If you have @Kott doing the packaging it shouldn't be surprising.

He is one of my Italian friends? I assume he is Italian, because the geekos daw site, has an Italian and english version.

I probably have him to thank for a fully working LMMS with Carla, and Ardour, and I compiled nothing myself.

The LMMS forums proofs this is special, there are every week post there, from somebody with distro X, and a problem with LMMS, which almost every time has to do with a package builder not really understanding LMMS and Carla.

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He is one of my Italian friends? I assume he is Italian, because the geekos daw site, has an Italian and english version.

I don't think so, would be cool though, I would gladly offer him a dinner. The other Geekos DAW guys are italians.

He made available, through the Open Suse build system, many audio packages for other distros.

For example I use the Kott's Bespoke Synth package available for multiple distros: https://software.opensuse.org//download ... th-nightly

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Thats one thing I like about the obs, suse hosting packages also for other Distro.

One happy Linux family.

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Found something more in yast, the LV2 Avl drum pack.

Also saw a vid about the kit, explaining how well this should work with Ardour.

The AVLdrums comes as four separate drum-kits: Black Pearl, Red Zeppelin, the Blonde Bop kit played with regular sticks and Blonde Bop Hot Rods played with rute sticks. There are 5 velocity layers for each of the 28 kits pieces or drum-zones for both kits.
Additionally there is a percussion set, called Buskman's Holiday.