AV Linux Evolution-Mailprogramm

[Torsten2]

Hey there,

the install of the new 23.1. (AVL_MXE-23.1-20240120_x64.iso) went lovely. Everything works but unfortunatelly Evolution runs into problems. Before it starts a programm asks me for a pass key (which I enter) and than evolution ends with:

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** (evolution:7290): WARNING **: 10:02:40.082: Failed to canonicalize path /root/.local/share/evolution/preview-plugins: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden

** (evolution:7290): CRITICAL **: 10:02:40.082: Attempted to add disallowed path to sandbox: /root/.local/share/evolution/preview-plugins

(evolution:7290): GLib-GIO-WARNING **: 10:02:49.602: Your application did not unregister from D-Bus before destruction. Consider using g_application_run().
Torsten@mx:~
$ evolution

(evolution:7486): dbind-WARNING **: 10:02:52.970: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/user/112/at-spi/bus_0: Keine Berechtigung

(evolution-alarm-notify:7494): dbind-WARNING **: 10:02:53.182: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/user/112/at-spi/bus_0: Keine Berechtigung

** (evolution:7486): WARNING **: 10:02:53.447: Failed to canonicalize path /home/Torsten/.local/share/evolution/preview-plugins: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden

** (evolution:7486): CRITICAL **: 10:02:53.447: Attempted to add disallowed path to sandbox: /home/Torsten/.local/share/evolution/preview-plugins
bwrap: Can't find source path /run/user/112/at-spi: Permission denied

** (evolution:7486): ERROR **: 10:02:53.463: Failed to fully launch dbus-proxy: Der Kindprozess wurde mit Status 1 beendet
Trace/Breakpoint ausgelöst

Than I started evolution with sudo. This worked. But gave me a guru meditation (which fells very welcome but a bit strange as well). The related .e-crashdump.txt gave me this:

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The program is not being run.

Thread 8 (Thread 0x7ff192d0e6c0 (LWP 2286) "Ethread-feedbac"):
#0  0x00007ff1a149d8dc in select () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#1  0x0000558ebaf92f2c in e_powersave_sleeper_sleep ()
#2  0x00007ff192d3476a in  () at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/enlightenment/modules/temperature/linux-gnu-x86_64-0.25.4/module.so
#3  0x00007ff1a224a311 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore.so.1
#4  0x00007ff1a2367019 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libeina.so.1
#5  0x00007ff1a1428134 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#6  0x00007ff1a14a87dc in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6

Thread 7 (Thread 0x7ff1935736c0 (LWP 2285) "Ethread-feedbac"):
#0  0x00007ff1a146e485 in clock_nanosleep () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#1  0x00007ff1a1472d93 in nanosleep () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#2  0x00007ff1a149e185 in usleep () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#3  0x00007ff1935766d5 in  () at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/enlightenment/modules/procstats/linux-gnu-x86_64-0.25.4/module.so
#4  0x00007ff1a224a311 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore.so.1
#5  0x00007ff1a2367019 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libeina.so.1
#6  0x00007ff1a1428134 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#7  0x00007ff1a14a87dc in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6

Thread 6 (Thread 0x7ff1941fa6c0 (LWP 2266) "Ethread-feedbac"):
#0  0x00007ff1a149d8dc in select () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#1  0x0000558ebaf92f2c in e_powersave_sleeper_sleep ()
#2  0x00007ff19c0b14da in  () at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/enlightenment/modules/cpufreq/linux-gnu-x86_64-0.25.4/module.so
#3  0x00007ff1a224a311 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore.so.1
#4  0x00007ff1a2367019 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libeina.so.1
#5  0x00007ff1a1428134 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#6  0x00007ff1a14a87dc in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6

Thread 5 (Thread 0x7ff1961fe6c0 (LWP 2258) "Eanimator-vsync"):
#0  0x00007ff1a146e485 in clock_nanosleep () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#1  0x00007ff1a1472d93 in nanosleep () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#2  0x00007ff1a149e185 in usleep () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#3  0x00007ff1a15ce7e8 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore_x.so.1
#4  0x00007ff1a15ced22 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore_x.so.1
#5  0x00007ff19fbf856c in drmHandleEvent () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdrm.so.2
#6  0x00007ff1a15cec62 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore_x.so.1
#7  0x00007ff1a224a311 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore.so.1
#8  0x00007ff1a2367019 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libeina.so.1
#9  0x00007ff1a1428134 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#10 0x00007ff1a14a87dc in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6

Thread 4 (Thread 0x7ff19cbff6c0 (LWP 2248) "Ethread-feedbac"):
#0  0x00007ff1a1424e96 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#1  0x00007ff1a142fcd0 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#2  0x00007ff1a2347ac8 in eina_thread_queue_wait () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libeina.so.1
#3  0x0000558ebaf0905f in  ()
#4  0x00007ff1a224a311 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore.so.1
#5  0x00007ff1a2367019 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libeina.so.1
#6  0x00007ff1a1428134 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#7  0x00007ff1a14a87dc in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6

Thread 3 (Thread 0x7ff19e7fd6c0 (LWP 2246) "Evas-scale-sam"):
#0  0x00007ff1a1424e96 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#1  0x00007ff1a142fcd0 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#2  0x00007ff1a2347ac8 in eina_thread_queue_wait () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libeina.so.1
#3  0x00007ff1a1eb7602 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libevas.so.1
#4  0x00007ff1a2367019 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libeina.so.1
#5  0x00007ff1a1428134 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#6  0x00007ff1a14a87dc in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6

Thread 2 (Thread 0x7ff19effe6c0 (LWP 2245) "Eevas-thread-wk"):
#0  0x00007ff1a1424e96 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#1  0x00007ff1a142783c in pthread_cond_timedwait () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#2  0x00007ff1a1ec35ae in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libevas.so.1
#3  0x00007ff1a2367019 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libeina.so.1
#4  0x00007ff1a1428134 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#5  0x00007ff1a14a87dc in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6

Thread 1 (Thread 0x7ff19ff32940 (LWP 2241) "enlightenment"):
#0  0x00007ff1a1472d32 in pause () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#1  0x00007ff1a13db050 in <signal handler called> () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#2  0x00007ff193577809 in  () at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/enlightenment/modules/procstats/linux-gnu-x86_64-0.25.4/module.so
#3  0x00007ff1a1ee0bf0 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libevas.so.1
#4  0x00007ff1a22a7b0b in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libeo.so.1
#5  0x00007ff1a22a2282 in efl_event_callback_legacy_call () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libeo.so.1
#6  0x00007ff1a1ee131d in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libevas.so.1
#7  0x00007ff1a1f2ee78 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libevas.so.1
#8  0x00007ff1a0d14ec6 in efl_gfx_entity_size_set () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libefl.so.1
#9  0x00007ff1a1f3b6eb in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libevas.so.1
#10 0x00007ff1a0d14ec6 in efl_gfx_entity_size_set () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libefl.so.1
#11 0x00007ff1a0d14ec6 in efl_gfx_entity_size_set () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libefl.so.1
#12 0x00007ff1a1727be9 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libedje.so.1
#13 0x00007ff1a172593f in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libedje.so.1
#14 0x00007ff1a172994d in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libedje.so.1
#15 0x00007ff1a17acb80 in edje_thaw () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libedje.so.1
#16 0x0000558ebaf7b698 in  ()
#17 0x00007ff1a220c58f in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore.so.1
#18 0x00007ff1a22a7cd3 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libeo.so.1
#19 0x00007ff1a22a2182 in efl_event_callback_call () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libeo.so.1
#20 0x00007ff1a220eb81 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore.so.1
#21 0x00007ff1a220f635 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore.so.1
#22 0x00007ff1a2215055 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore.so.1
#23 0x00007ff1a221439e in efl_loop_begin () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore.so.1
#24 0x00007ff1a220f717 in ecore_main_loop_begin () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore.so.1
#25 0x0000558ebaec7d16 in main ()
[Inferior 1 (process 2241) detached]

Thread 8 (Thread 0x7f7e852fc6c0 (LWP 2307) "Ethread-feedbac"):
#0  0x00007f7e939da8dc in select () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#1  0x000055d7849b0f2c in e_powersave_sleeper_sleep ()
#2  0x00007f7e8532276a in  () at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/enlightenment/modules/temperature/linux-gnu-x86_64-0.25.4/module.so
#3  0x00007f7e94781311 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore.so.1
#4  0x00007f7e9489e019 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libeina.so.1
#5  0x00007f7e93965134 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#6  0x00007f7e939e57dc in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6

Thread 7 (Thread 0x7f7e85b616c0 (LWP 2306) "Ethread-feedbac"):
#0  0x00007f7e939ab485 in clock_nanosleep () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#1  0x00007f7e939afd93 in nanosleep () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#2  0x00007f7e939db185 in usleep () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#3  0x00007f7e85b646d5 in  () at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/enlightenment/modules/procstats/linux-gnu-x86_64-0.25.4/module.so
#4  0x00007f7e94781311 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore.so.1
#5  0x00007f7e9489e019 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libeina.so.1
#6  0x00007f7e93965134 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#7  0x00007f7e939e57dc in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6

Thread 6 (Thread 0x7f7e865fa6c0 (LWP 2283) "Ethread-feedbac"):
#0  0x00007f7e939da8dc in select () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#1  0x000055d7849b0f2c in e_powersave_sleeper_sleep ()
#2  0x00007f7e9014b4da in  () at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/enlightenment/modules/cpufreq/linux-gnu-x86_64-0.25.4/module.so
#3  0x00007f7e94781311 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore.so.1
#4  0x00007f7e9489e019 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libeina.so.1
#5  0x00007f7e93965134 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#6  0x00007f7e939e57dc in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6

Thread 5 (Thread 0x7f7e885fe6c0 (LWP 2275) "Eanimator-vsync"):
#0  0x00007f7e939da8dc in select () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#1  0x00007f7e93b0bbf6 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore_x.so.1
#2  0x00007f7e94781311 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore.so.1
#3  0x00007f7e9489e019 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libeina.so.1
#4  0x00007f7e93965134 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#5  0x00007f7e939e57dc in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6

Thread 4 (Thread 0x7f7e8abff6c0 (LWP 2266) "Ethread-feedbac"):
#0  0x00007f7e93961e96 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#1  0x00007f7e9396ccd0 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#2  0x00007f7e9487eac8 in eina_thread_queue_wait () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libeina.so.1
#3  0x000055d78492705f in  ()
#4  0x00007f7e94781311 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore.so.1
#5  0x00007f7e9489e019 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libeina.so.1
#6  0x00007f7e93965134 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#7  0x00007f7e939e57dc in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6

Thread 3 (Thread 0x7f7e90dfd6c0 (LWP 2264) "Evas-scale-sam"):
#0  0x00007f7e93961e96 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#1  0x00007f7e9396ccd0 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#2  0x00007f7e9487eac8 in eina_thread_queue_wait () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libeina.so.1
#3  0x00007f7e942b7602 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libevas.so.1
#4  0x00007f7e9489e019 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libeina.so.1
#5  0x00007f7e93965134 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#6  0x00007f7e939e57dc in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6

Thread 2 (Thread 0x7f7e915fe6c0 (LWP 2263) "Eevas-thread-wk"):
#0  0x00007f7e93961e96 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#1  0x00007f7e9396483c in pthread_cond_timedwait () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#2  0x00007f7e942c35ae in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libevas.so.1
#3  0x00007f7e9489e019 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libeina.so.1
#4  0x00007f7e93965134 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#5  0x00007f7e939e57dc in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6

Thread 1 (Thread 0x7f7e9246a940 (LWP 2259) "enlightenment"):
#0  0x00007f7e939afd32 in pause () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#1  0x00007f7e93918050 in <signal handler called> () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#2  0x00007f7e9487d6dd in eina_stringshare_del () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libeina.so.1
#3  0x00007f7e94199ff4 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libedje.so.1
#4  0x00007f7e9419a64f in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libedje.so.1
#5  0x00007f7e9419a803 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libedje.so.1
#6  0x00007f7e947439ab in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore.so.1
#7  0x00007f7e9474a2a1 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore.so.1
#8  0x00007f7e947536a6 in efl_loop_message_handler_message_call () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore.so.1
#9  0x00007f7e9474c219 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore.so.1
#10 0x00007f7e9474b0de in efl_loop_message_process () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore.so.1
#11 0x00007f7e94745e6e in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore.so.1
#12 0x00007f7e94746635 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore.so.1
#13 0x00007f7e9474c055 in  () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore.so.1
#14 0x00007f7e9474b39e in efl_loop_begin () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore.so.1
#15 0x00007f7e94746717 in ecore_main_loop_begin () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libecore.so.1
#16 0x000055d7848e5d16 in main ()
[Inferior 1 (process 2259) detached]

What does the actually lovely guru meditation mean and how can I start evolution other than as sudo?

[Impostor]

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** (evolution:7290): WARNING **: 10:02:40.082: Failed to canonicalize path /root/.local/share/evolution/preview-plugins

That's kind of a red flag. Did you install evolution when logged in as root? Or run it as root so user configs were written into /root/? Anyway, that's not how it should be done.

[GMaq]

Hi,

Evolution is extremely Gnome-heavy and to be honest I don't really test any email clients with AV Linux but it shouldn't require a password or be run as sudo. I have installed it here on my dev machine and it launched right away with its setup dialog, it didn't ask for any password.

The 'guru meditation' is basically Enlightenment (the Desktop Environment) telling you that it crashed and it will usually recover and as you have seen leave a log file, to be honest other than the root messages noted above I can't really make much sense of what went wrong..

How did you install Evolution?

[Torsten2]

@Gmaq: Thanks a lot for your help!

I don't really test any email clients with AV Linux

- How do you send & receive e-mails than?

How did you install Evolution?

I installed evolution via the mx-package installation. There it shows up under "popular packages" (beliebte Pakete). I think it asks for the password for a keyring once you connected e-mail accounts with it.

In the meantime I started AV 23.1. with system-d (I can select this in the boot options menu). Evolution in this 'environment' also asks me for keyring password but - after I have typed it - functions normally.

[bluebell]

So I guess Evolution insists on opening the keyring and on your failing installation the keyring cannot be accessed because of a broken ownership of the keyring directory and/or datafile.

[GMaq]

@Gmaq: Thanks a lot for your help!

I don't really test any email clients with AV Linux

- How do you send & receive e-mails than?

In the meantime I started AV 23.1. with system-d (I can select this in the boot options menu). Evolution in this 'environment' also asks me for keyring password but - after I have typed it - functions normally.

I've used web-based email (gmail, squirrelmail etc.)for many years so it's been years since I've used something like Thunderbird and I've never used Gnome so I'm not very familiar with Evolution..

More and more applications and Desktop Environments are developed with only systemd in mind so my feeling is if that works use it! MX Linux does offer both init systems by default but I personally have no preference or opinion one way or the other, for best compatibility you (and others reading) are probably better off to use systemd in an installed system..

*Note that AV Linux running live needs to use sysvinit because the MX Live booting system is developed to use sysvinit exclusively but once installed probably systemd should be recommended in general. I'm still collecting User input from this latest release to know what suggestions to make.

[Torsten2]

Thanks a lot for your effort. I'm not sure I'm getting warm with the latest release. There are many many cool features I like and I wanna try out but ATM I there seem to be quite some things that don't work and make me think it's not as well rounded as it's predecessor. But it also could be I need more time to get used to it. ATM my problem is I can't start the diskmanager with the latest version. It says:

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'/usr/sbin', '/usr/lib/python311.zip', '/usr/lib/python3.11', '/usr/lib/python3.11/lib-dynload', '/usr/local/lib/python3.11/dist-packages', '/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages', '/usr/lib/python3.9/site-packages']
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/DiskManager/DiskManager.py", line 51, in <module>
    PIX_MOUNT = ICON_THEME.load_icon("gnome-dev-harddisk", 24, 0)
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
gi.repository.GLib.GError: gtk-icon-theme-error-quark: Symbol »gnome-dev-harddisk« nicht im Thema Enlightenment-X vorhanden (0)

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/DiskManager/DiskManager.py", line 54, in <module>
    PIX_MOUNT = ICON_THEME.load_icon("hdd_mount", 24, 0)
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
gi.repository.GLib.GError: gtk-icon-theme-error-quark: Symbol »hdd_mount« nicht im Thema Enlightenment-X vorhanden (0)

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/sbin/disk-manager", line 46, in <module>
    from DiskManager.DiskManager import *
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/DiskManager/DiskManager.py", line 56, in <module>
    PIX_MOUNT = GdkPixbuf.Pixbuf(GdkPixbuf.Colorspace.RGB, True, 8, 1, 1)
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
TypeError: GObject.__init__() takes exactly 0 arguments (5 given)

[GMaq]

HI,

There are certainly some new kinks to work out but I think you are having some out of the ordinary issues there and I'm not sure if it is a locale problem of some sort or something else.

Here on the default English install both Evolution and Disk-Manager are working as expected so you are seeing some issues that I am not but let's get to the bottom of it... Have you installed a new locale since installing AV Linux? If you have done so how did you install it? After the initial install or during the install?

My apologies for the growing pains, I have only tested in English and until AV Linux got out into the wild I'm still learning what issues are lurking for those using other locales and languages..

*EDIT your crash says it's missing a gnome Icon in order to launch, have you removed 'Adwaita' or any other Icon theme from the default install?

[Torsten2]

Hey Glen,

thanks for getting back on this. I just re-updated back to 21.3. I'm glad I still found the iso on bandshed. Maybe I'm too old or ignorant, but I missed too much. E.g. window tiling or pressing the super-key to open the menu. And I was a bit overwhelmed by enlightened or maybe some other related news, e.g. the two filemanagers or the way you can adjust changes on the system. Maybe I'll try the AV 23 later on in my life.
Thanks for AV-Linux, it's my favourite OS.
Cheers and best wishes, Torsten