This is a scrolling play-through of the playback file for "MAX-Q"
The piece is dedicated to the pursuit of manned space flight. Rendered with MuseScore 4 / Muse Sounds.
https://youtu.be/JBtXhd6cAnc
Enjoy!
-Carl
Great. I love the busy position marker when playing fast notes.
Made with Linux?
Holy mother of god, Muse Sounds really sounds great... that brass at the beginning gave me chills!!
I think it's about time I start experimenting with that too, rather than do the usual MuseScore + VPO dance I usually do that takes a lot effort. Last time I checked MuseScore 4 was not available for Fedora yet, though, and apparently you need to get sounds via their own proprietary tool which is a bit sketchy IMHO... but if these are the results you can get, it's definitely worth the effort.
Great orchestral track, colour me impressed!
Rainmak3r wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:29 amI think it's about time I start experimenting with that too, rather than do the usual MuseScore + VPO dance I usually do that takes a lot effort. Last time I checked MuseScore 4 was not available for Fedora yet, though, and apparently you need to get sounds via their own proprietary tool which is a bit sketchy IMHO... but if these are the results you can get, it's definitely worth the effort.
I am having a very hard time trying to justify opening a sequencer project with VPO since composing in M4. I just can't justify the work for orchestral material.
I would think that if you are running M3 appimage, then M4 should work too. I don't know about the MuseHub though (which is where you get the sound library).
I am working on a walk through video for this. Will post when it's finished. Glad you enjoyed the piece!
Carl Irwin wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 8:38 pmRainmak3r wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:29 amI think it's about time I start experimenting with that too, rather than do the usual MuseScore + VPO dance I usually do that takes a lot effort. Last time I checked MuseScore 4 was not available for Fedora yet, though, and apparently you need to get sounds via their own proprietary tool which is a bit sketchy IMHO... but if these are the results you can get, it's definitely worth the effort.
I am having a very hard time trying to justify opening a sequencer project with VPO since composing in M4. I just can't justify the work for orchestral material.
I would think that if you are running M3 appimage, then M4 should work too. I don't know about the MuseHub though (which is where you get the sound library).
I am working on a walk through video for this. Will post when it's finished. Glad you enjoyed the piece!
My process is indeed a bit convoluted, as I score in M3, then export the separate MIDI tracks, and import them in an Ardour project based on this template. After that, it's a long process of fine tuning, especially to tweak articulation changes via a custom CC using slightly tweaked versions of the VPO SFZ files. I usually do like the results, e.g, like in this piece here, but it does take a LOT of work.
M4 Sounds do sound like they're quite realistic, so they'd probably be a step ahead not only in terms of ease, but also perceived quality. My only doubt would be related to aspects like reverb and other things, which I doubt M4 is as good as Ardour (or other DAWs) at doing; using the orchestral material along other assets (e.g., in all the rock+orchestra stuff I do) might be trickier as well, as I'd have to pre-generate the whole orchestra with M4 first, and then put it with the rest, with no ability of tweaking individual instruments to make the mix better without going back to the M4 source. But I may be seeing problems where there aren't any (maybe there's a way to export the audio for individual tracks, for instance, and leave the mixing to Ardour as before).
Anyway, no, I'm not using the AppImage, but the M3 version Fedora ships as part of its repos. I tend to stay away from AppImage, Flatpak etc. when I can, since the fact they bundle their own dependencies (for the sake of portability) even when you have them already sounds like a huge waste of space to me. Should it take too long for M4 to land in Fedora, though, I just might have to. Muse Hub is most definitely a closed source component, which is the sketchy part I'm not really fond of: before, the HQ version of the MuseScore soundfont was still downloaded externally, but through the M3 interface. But again, if there's no other way, I may have to go with it nevertheless!
Rainmak3r wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 8:35 amMy process is indeed a bit convoluted, as I score in M3, then export the separate MIDI tracks, and import them in an Ardour project based on this template. After that, it's a long process of fine tuning, especially to tweak articulation changes via a custom CC using
I used the exact same process. I have some work that I composed directly to DAW (Qtractor or Ardour), but I almost always scored to notation in M3 first.
Currently, M4 can render out all instruments together as a single audio file OR it can render each instrument to a separate audio file! I have been considering the implications of bringing these tracks to DAW and then importing midi from the project for a synth track as a means of perfect automated alignment. But the M4 results have been so incredible, I just haven't had a reason yet to bring the audio into Ardour. The next release of M4 (coming soon) will have the ability to disable or refine the reverb.
Here is a walk-through of the project and a lengthy discussion of my philosophy and approach:
https://youtu.be/HYEGwQ-JQrA
Enjoy!
-Carl
Carl Irwin wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:57 amHere is a walk-through of the project and a lengthy discussion of my philosophy and approach:
https://youtu.be/HYEGwQ-JQrA
Thanks, I'll have a look at it this weekend!
