Pipewire and compiling software with Jack dependency

[Impostor]

If you run pipewire and don't have jack installed, do you have problems compiling programs from source when jack is a dependency thereof?

Asking for a friend.

[Audiojunkie]

If you run pipewire and don't have jack installed, do you have problems compiling programs from source when jack is a dependency thereof?

Asking for a friend.

I guess it would depend, but I haven't tested it myself. When installed on the system, pipewire supposedly reports itself as jack, so if that is sufficient to meet the dependency requirement, it should work.

[Impostor]

If you run pipewire and don't have jack installed, do you have problems compiling programs from source when jack is a dependency thereof?

Asking for a friend.

I guess it would depend, but I haven't tested it myself. When installed on the system, pipewire supposedly reports itself as jack, so if that is sufficient to meet the dependency requirement, it should work.

I would think one still needs the jack development packages, or will there be pipewire replacements for those?

[Audiojunkie]

If you run pipewire and don't have jack installed, do you have problems compiling programs from source when jack is a dependency thereof?

Asking for a friend.

I guess it would depend, but I haven't tested it myself. When installed on the system, pipewire supposedly reports itself as jack, so if that is sufficient to meet the dependency requirement, it should work.

I would think one still needs the jack development packages, or will there be pipewire replacements for those?

That's a good question.... I'm not sure.... I try to avoid compiling wherever possible.

[sysrqer]

Looking at the Arch user repo:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/qtractor-git

libjack.so (jack-git, lib32-jack-git, lib32-jack, jack2-git, jack, pipewire-full-jack-git, pipewire-common-jack-git, pipewire-jack-git, jack2, lib32-jack2, lib32-pipewire-jack, pipewire-jack)

So yes, without thinking twice I would bet that you can build a jack dependent software with pipewire-jack, at least if you are on Arch or Artix Linux.

Yes, that is what the dependencies say. The packages in the () can all be used individually to provide libjack.so.

[Impostor]

Yes, that is what the dependencies say. The packages in the () can all be used individually to provide libjack.so.

Yeah, but packages on debian/ubuntu can have different contents from those on arch. There are no -dev packages on Arch since the contents of those packages (needed for building stuff) are already included with the packages on Arch.

[sysrqer]

Yeah, but packages on debian/ubuntu can have different contents from those on arch. There are no -dev packages on Arch since the contents of those packages (needed for building stuff) are already included with the packages on Arch.

Sure, but you don't need to install jack to compile jack programs on ubuntu, you would just need the dev package, libjack-dev. At least, it always used to be that way when I used it.

[Musicteacher]

The files that are needed for development, but not needed for normal usage, are the header files, for instance
/usr/include/jack/jack.h
On Arch, they are both included in the "normal" jack package as well as in the pipewire-jack package.
I don't know for ubuntu-based distros, but you can look which package provides the header file I mentioned above.

As jack-aware apps work with pipewire without recompiling it should even be possible to use a jack development package together with pipewire user package, if the later one does not provide the development files.