General MIDI drums and updates

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General MIDI drums and updates

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The general MIDI drumkits are done. And there are updates to fix bugs that imposter and alex reported.

Download nb_common.zip and orch_update.zip and unzip them over the previous NoBudgetOrch and NoBudgetCommon folders. This will update the files to the latest versions. Then run install_orchestra.sh to install the update. (It should complete rather quickly since the installers will skip updating files that don't need to be updated).

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cd ~/NoBudgetOrch
chmod 775 ./install_orchestra.sh
sudo ./install_orchestra.sh

Then download and unzip drums_plugins.zip and either/both drums44khz.zip or/and drums48khz.zip and do:

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cd ~/NoBudgetDrums
chmod 775 ./install_gm_drums.sh
sudo ./install_gm_drums..sh

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Re: General MIDI drums and updates

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j_e_f_f_g wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:44 pm

And there are updates to fix bugs that imposter and alex reported.

There's no update to Solo_Cello? That one still gives the same sample rate error.
And the panning of the rick and pluck basses are still off center. (Panning's not inverted anymore though!)

And the GUI still crashes in musE.

Edit: I downloaded all wavpacks (strings48khz.zip etc) which were updated after 09-03-2023 and manually overwrote the older ones. Now Solo_Cello works!

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Loading GM_Drumkits in MusE:
Synth: GM_Drumkits LV2 can not be created!

Loading GM_Drumkits in Carla:
Could not find the requested plugin URI in the plugin library

Loading GM_Drumkits in QTractor/jalv:
lilv_plugin_instantiate(): error: No plugin <http://GM_Drumkits> in <file:///home/user/.lv2/nobudget.lv2/GM_Drumkits.so>

EDIT: same errors for both the precompiled plugin and the custom built one. Also when I do/don't merge the GM kit with the rest of your plugins into nobudget.lv2.

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GM Drumkits errors have been fixed in the latest drums_plugins.zip.

I forgot to mention that the updated basses are in drums44khz.zip and drums44khz.zip. I actually didn't update "Rick Bass" since I think I'm going to replace it with a different bass.

How is the new solo oboe? I think this is as good as it's going to be. I didn't have the best samples to start with, and I had to do significant processing just to get them to sound like they do now.

I tested the plugins in the AppImage version of Muse. The GUI doesn't crash, but it also doesn't display any info. I'll have to investigate this further. LV2 standardization is appallingly bad, and that's due to inadequate LV2 documentation. It's probably impossible to create an LV2 plugin that runs properly in all possible hosts, because every host implements LV2 support in what seems like an incompatible way.

Hopefully, clap will be properly documented, and will bury LV2.

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j_e_f_f_g wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:10 pm

How is the new solo oboe? I think this is as good as it's going to be. I didn't have the best samples to start with, and I had to do significant processing just to get them to sound like they do now.

Still sounds the same to me. But, neither solo_plugins.zip nor solo_brass48khz.zip have been updated in march? And orch_update.zip doesn't contain anything relating to the solo instruments either?

https://sourceforge.net/projects/nbo-plugins/files/

j_e_f_f_g wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:10 pm

I tested the plugins in the AppImage version of Muse. The GUI doesn't crash, but it also doesn't display any info.

I also use the appimage (4.1, not the master), and for me it's the other way around: I do see info, and it crashes :)

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About GUI crashes:

Open GUI, play notes, change tab: crash.
Open GUI, do not play notes, change from "monitor" to "edit" to"master": crash
Open GUI, do not play notes, can change between "monitor" and "edit" without crashing. But not to "master": then it crashes. Also, any(?) midi message crashes the GUI if I've toggled between "monitor" and "edit".

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Some progress, but:

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About GUI crashes: Using Ildaeil to wrap your plugins in MusE leads to a working GUI. With some issues:

EDIT: but not for all instruments: Elec_Grand, Electric_Bass,Orchestra give no GUI at all. Not in MusE, nor in Ildaeil.

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Glockenspiel sounds very quiet w.r.t other instruments (e.g. harp).
Picked Bass has a delay (latency).

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Somehow a filename got messed up in 48KHz/Drumkit/Pop/Layer. It should be TomHi.cmp (with an "i").

Glockenspiel sounds very quiet

I turned it down quite a bit, as it is a fairly soft instrument compared to the rest of the orchestra. But if you want to change the volume permanently, you can edit the text file 48KHz/Mallet/Glockenspiel/map.txt.

Change VOL=10 to something like VOL=60.

Otherwise, you can always change the volume on-the-fly with a MIDI Volume Controller (7) or Expression (11) message.

Picked Bass has a delay (latency).

That's due to the pick sound. You kind of have to anticipate the string pluck when playing that patch.

Oboe still sounds the same to me.

Oops. Forgot to update solo_brass48khz.zip. Did that now.

That's what I get for working on these until 4 AM.

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The drumkits work after renaming timh to tomhi.

But solo_brass48khz.zip hasn't gotten updated yet:

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I just double-checked, and uploaded solo_brass48khz.zip, so it definitely has the newest waves.

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j_e_f_f_g wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 4:36 pm

I just double-checked, and uploaded solo_brass48khz.zip, so it definitely has the newest waves.

That Solo Oboe's lowest octave's stereo image is still hard to reconcile with that of the higher octaves i.m.o.

But don't let that keep you awake at night!

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Impostor wrote:

lowest octave's stereo image is still hard to reconcile with that of the higher octaves

Yeah, I know. It bugs me too. But unless I get some new oboe samples, I just can't seem to do anything with it.

Anyway, moving on to the guitars now.

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wavedestdir=$(logname)
wavedestdir="/home/${wavedestdir}"
echo "${wavedestdir}"

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j_e_f_f_g wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:53 pm

Hey, run the following script and see if it correctly prints out your home folder location:

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wavedestdir=$(logname)
wavedestdir="/home/${wavedestdir}"
echo "${wavedestdir}"

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