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linuxdaw.org - listing quality audio software for linux

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Howdy people!
I thought I'd share a pet project I've been working on a few days..

https://linuxdaw.org

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It's a light weight web-page listing quality audio software for Linux (not everything known to man).
It has a fast filter for narrowing what you're looking for and focus on images to showcase the software.

Why?

Many web-sites showcase audio software for Linux, each with it's own look and focus. None of them really met my personal need when I finally made the switch to Linux, so..

Some goals of the site:

  • Make it easy and quick for musicians to find the tools they need
  • Focus on good quality software with proper UI
  • Promote the great developers that make the effort of supporting Linux
  • Showcase the software using modern web technology

It's build using Vue.js and deployed in a docker container running Nginx.
The source code can be found at https://codeberg.org/fractalf/linuxdaw.org.

Contributions, feedback, ideas, thoughs, etc are welcome
I'm sure there's some goodies I don't know about.
Please bear in mind, this is just for fun

Hope you enjoy it :)

..some other resources I've come across and used a bit:

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Post by GMaq »

Hi!

Wow excellent work!! Super Pro! Off top of my head probably missing a few notable FLOSS projects like Guitarix (Hermann Meyer) and SFizz.. Is Muse in there? I'm sure there are others..

https://guitarix.org/
https://sfz.tools/sfizz/
https://muse-sequencer.github.io/

Any desire for full Audio Distributions or Specialty Repos?

UbuntuStudio: https://ubuntustudio.org/
GeekOSDaw: https://geekosdaw.tuxfamily.org/en/
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AV Linux: http://www.bandshed.net/avlinux/

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krussedull wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 7:40 pm

Some goals of the site:

  • Make it easy and quick for musicians to find the tools they need
  • Focus on good quality software with proper UI
  • Promote the great developers that make the effort of supporting Linux
  • Showcase the software using modern web technology

Hi, cool website there.

A couple of thoughts about it:

  1. You use the generic "Free" tag, for both Freeware and Free and Open Source software. By looking at your goals and to the vast amount of proprietary stuff there, probably is not important to you to distinguish between licenses (linuxmusic.rocks has the same "problem"), anyway it would be nice to differentiate them if possible.

  2. There are many awesome plugins that don't have nice GUIs or don't have GUIs at all, like Airwindows ones. It's stated in your goals you want only to showcase plugins with proper UIs, while I respect your choice (it's your project after all) still you are leaving out a goldmine of good quality plugins.

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Looks good but I want to second what LAM said. A license filter is a must, I have no desire to look at proprietary software.

Oh and Libre Wave is missing from the list :)

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GMaq wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:11 pm

Wow excellent work!! Super Pro! Off top of my head probably missing a few notable FLOSS projects like Guitarix (Hermann Meyer) and SFizz.. Is Muse in there? I'm sure there are others..

https://guitarix.org/
https://sfz.tools/sfizz/
https://muse-sequencer.github.io/

Any desire for full Audio Distributions or Specialty Repos?

UbuntuStudio: https://ubuntustudio.org/
GeekOSDaw: https://geekosdaw.tuxfamily.org/en/
LibraZik: https://librazik.tuxfamily.org/base-sit ... nglish.php
AV Linux: http://www.bandshed.net/avlinux/

Thanks,
I added guitarix, that looks/sounds great! Didn't know about that one.
The others are a bit "off scope" I think. I'm sure they are great for many people, but my subjectiv focus here is a bit more "pro audio" (in lack of a better word). I guess its aimed more at "musicians" than "geeks" (I'm both, so noone take offense here..)
I'm sure some will disagree etc etc, but there are plenty of other sites that lists just about everything under the sun that makes sound and runs on linux ;)

LAM wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:29 pm

Hi, cool website there.

  1. You use the generic "Free" tag, for both Freeware and Free and Open Source software. By looking at your goals and to the vast amount of proprietary stuff there, probably is not important to you to distinguish between licenses (linuxmusic.rocks has the same "problem"), anyway it would be nice to differentiate them if possible.

  2. There are many awesome plugins that don't have nice GUIs or don't have GUIs at all, like Airwindows ones. It's stated in your goals you want only to showcase plugins with proper UIs, while I respect your choice (it's your project after all) still you are leaving out a goldmine of good quality plugins.

Thanks,
great feedback and you are absolutely right, and personally I do care.
Changed it to "No cost" for now.

"Hi, I'm Alf and hey, you can do this.." ;)
AirWindows has some good stuff, totally agree. I will probably add it. Maybe not an item for every plug (he has a "few"), but perhaps a "bundle" or something. You also get all his stuff with Surge, but he deserves a spot here, totally agree

d.healey wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:34 pm

Looks good but I want to second what LAM said. A license filter is a must, I have no desire to look at proprietary software.

Thanks,
good point. Yea I actually collected most of the license info already, but haven't gotten to making a filter out of it yet. I did add it as information now though and will fix the filter later.

Came across a couple of "projects" where the license was pretty much "every one out there". Not sure how to list that ;)

I fully respect your view on proprietary software and when it comes to everything except music production, I'm the same. Maybe not as much as Stallman, but yea my heart is with FOSS.

..however, the unfortunate case is that there are just too many good plugins made by good people, so I personally am fine with propritary stuff in some cases. If it weren't for Bitwig I would still be using Ableton on Win7, that that is waaaaay worse than using propretary U-he Hive in Bitwig on Linux ;)

..so, I want to promote any developer who makes audio software available on native Linux, because then I don't have to use shit from Apple or Microsoft.

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The way you load all the full size pictures at once makes the page very slow and bloated. It's better to use thumbnails and only load the full size image when they are clicked.

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Nice! I like it :) This will come in handy..

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I like it! Every once in a while someone makes a web page like this. Each one is different, and has their particular focus. This one will come in handy! Personally, I've been building a list (without any website, of course), that focuses on Linux music production software that supports HiDPI, since that's what I use. It would be very cool if there was an indicator on each entry as to whether HiDPI scaling is supported. Great work! :D

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Looks nice but does seem to somewhat duplicate the effort put into the aforementioned http://linuxmusic.rocks/ which has over 1400 entires so far although not all are GUI applications/plugins.

A HiDPI filter would be great as suggested. There are several plugins I need a magnifying glass for! Generally I ditch them if the scaling is suboptimal but for the occasional one there is no decent alternative.

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krussedull wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 7:40 pm

Howdy people!
I thought I'd share a pet project I've been working on a few days..

https://linuxdaw.org

Nice work, i really like the layout and fact that this site shows everything on single page!
I also like tagging approach which gives more option than simply putting every plugin/soft into one specific category.

But don't you think that loading images from third party site is good idea? Provider can easily remove them or even replace with something obscene. After all that way you are using someones content/work and they can get mad about it.

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Very handy site! There are a lots of websites with listings of Linux audio software and plugins. But some of 'm are very old and sometimes even deprecated with many dead links. This website is clear and does not have stuff that ain't worth looking into. It even lists the price of the paid stuff. I hope you keep it up to date.

P.S. Not everybody cares if the free stuff is proprietary or not. :wink:

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Nice. Reminded me a bit of the old "Libre Music Production", before that one was abandoned and turned into "Libre Arts".

Your "no cost" switch still makes no difference between free as in libre and as in beer... also, Ardour, the compiled version isn't free in your definition, as you have to pay a sum of your choice for it. The versions which come with the repositories of Linux distros aren't officially supported by the Ardour team, understandably.

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Thank you everyone for your thoughts and feedback! :)

Largos wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:51 pm

The way you load all the full size pictures at once makes the page very slow and bloated. It's better to use thumbnails and only load the full size image when they are clicked.

I'm am loading small images first. They are max 600x400 (check the source code. One could argue thats still too big ofc (~ 30-100kb pr image ish) but hey I think it's fine. I'm considering lazy-loading though as you scroll down, but yea this is still work in progress

Audiojunkie wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 1:04 am

I like it! Every once in a while someone makes a web page like this. Each one is different, and has their particular focus. This one will come in handy! Personally, I've been building a list (without any website, of course), that focuses on Linux music production software that supports HiDPI, since that's what I use. It would be very cool if there was an indicator on each entry as to whether HiDPI scaling is supported. Great work! :D

Hi, thanks! If you want to share that information I'd be more than happy to add it to my list! I'll just add a property to the dataset and maybe show an icon or something to indicate HiDPI. Maybe you could add an issue here or something? :)

sunrat wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:08 am

Looks nice but does seem to somewhat duplicate the effort put into the aforementioned http://linuxmusic.rocks/ which has over 1400 entires so far although not all are GUI applications/plugins.

A HiDPI filter would be great as suggested. There are several plugins I need a magnifying glass for! Generally I ditch them if the scaling is suboptimal but for the occasional one there is no decent alternative.

Didn't know about that site, thanks for sharing. Will take a look..
Yea totally agree HiDPI would be awesome to add, hopefully Audiojunkie can share that info with me. How would you define HiDPI?

occulkot wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:08 am

Nice work, i really like the layout and fact that this site shows everything on single page!
I also like tagging approach which gives more option than simply putting every plugin/soft into one specific category.

But don't you think that loading images from third party site is good idea? Provider can easily remove them or even replace with something obscene. After all that way you are using someones content/work and they can get mad about it.

Thanks!
I'm not sure I really understood what you meant?
I'm just copying screenshots from developers plugins and promoting their work. Can't really see the harm in that?

Linuxmusician01 wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:20 am

Very handy site! There are a lots of websites with listings of Linux audio software and plugins. But some of 'm are very old and sometimes even deprecated with many dead links. This website is clear and does not have stuff that ain't worth looking into. It even lists the price of the paid stuff. I hope you keep it up to date.

P.S. Not everybody cares if the free stuff is proprietary or not. :wink:

Cheers buddy, I'll do my best! If people find it usefull that might be inspiration enough to keep it going :)
..yea, and the good thing is we can make the page usefull for both camps (license filter coming..)

wjl wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:38 am

Nice. Reminded me a bit of the old "Libre Music Production", before that one was abandoned and turned into "Libre Arts".

Your "no cost" switch still makes no difference between free as in libre and as in beer... also, Ardour, the compiled version isn't free in your definition, as you have to pay a sum of your choice for it. The versions which come with the repositories of Linux distros aren't officially supported by the Ardour team, understandably.

Thanks!
So, I added the "No cost" (instead of "Free") and also license information where i could find any. If you have any better suggestion I'm all ears :)
Maybe use "Freeware" ? ..I'm adding a filter (tag style) for licenses in the next update, so one can filter out based on what license the software has.

Didn't know about that Ardour price stuff, thanks for sharing! Updated to "Pay what you can / No cost" now (cause you can still compile yourself). If you have any better suggestion I'm open for it

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krussedull wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:00 pm

I'm am loading small images first. They are max 600x400 (check the source code. One could argue thats still too big ofc (~ 30-100kb pr image ish) but hey I think it's fine. I'm considering lazy-loading though as you scroll down, but yea this is still work in progress

23mb of images for a web page is far too much. You don't need to make images any bigger than the space they occupy in the page, you're gaining nothing by doing this. If you make them all no wider than 325px (guessing that's the space you have set for them) and make all the images jpg or webp. png is too heavy a format for how you are using them.

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krussedull wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:00 pm

Thanks!
I'm not sure I really understood what you meant?
I'm just copying screenshots from developers plugins and promoting their work. Can't really see the harm in that?

Ok, i was looking at the repository on source (/db/) and didnt checked if website is loading screenshot from external website (eating someones bandwidth) or it is copied on yours and then hosted on your webserver. First could be really problematic. But still i dont think that downloading screenshot from websites is best practice - https://dunnerlaw.com/using-online-imag ... copyright/.

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