Ubuntu Studio Vs. 64 Studio

[spm_gl]

Having worked with the latest UbuntuStudio, I guess I need to revidate my vote. 64studio is great, but Karmic works extremely well. So I'm rather undecided now. Then again, I use both now, synced with Netjack

[Capoeira]

Having worked with the latest UbuntuStudio, I guess I need to revidate my vote. 64studio is great, but Karmic works extremely well. So I'm rather undecided now. Then again, I use both now, synced with Netjack

really? for how long are you testing KArmic? are you using the standart-RT-Kernel?

[spm_gl]

Only 4 days now, using the standard rt-kernel. I'll test it properly later, once we get our digital console installed. Currently I'm rather busy with training.

[StudioDave]

Having worked with the latest UbuntuStudio, I guess I need to revidate my vote. 64studio is great, but Karmic works extremely well.

Nice surprise, isn't it ? I was extremely sceptical about the upgrade, but I have a testing machine that had 9.04 on it so I decided to make the attempt. I had some relatively minor problems with permissions and grub, but nothing like what I went through with Jaunty. The stock kernel performs well enough for many audio purposes, though my tests indicated that QJackCtl reported a burst of xruns about once every two hours. I get no xruns with the stock rt kernel. I also did *not* disable the nice features for my notebook, e.g. fan power cotnrol. Damn, my nVidia chip was properly recognized, the correct driver was installed, and even the wireless works.

I think I'll have to write a new article about Karmic to make up for my previous Jaunty-bash.

[lucapette]

I would highly recomend giving beta 3 a whirl, it is very usable. If you have the hard drive space, I think the best route is to have a Studio distro and a desktop distro. A studio distro can perform very well at what it is customized for, but can suck elsewhere. Plus, you want your studio to be very stable and not changing often. Leave your desktop distro for cool graphics, playing games, cutting edge packages.

This is exactly what i'm thinking about. I have the same requirements because i use my laptop for web development and at this very moment i've messed up my laptop trying ubuntu studio. I'll give a try to 64 studio ant then i'll come back here to vote . I feel i'll vote 64 studio

[Jan]

I would highly recomend giving beta 3 a whirl, it is very usable. If you have the hard drive space, I think the best route is to have a Studio distro and a desktop distro. A studio distro can perform very well at what it is customized for, but can suck elsewhere. Plus, you want your studio to be very stable and not changing often. Leave your desktop distro for cool graphics, playing games, cutting edge packages.

This is exactly what i'm thinking about. I have the same requirements because i use my laptop for web development and at this very moment i've messed up my laptop trying ubuntu studio. I'll give a try to 64 studio ant then i'll come back here to vote . I feel i'll vote 64 studio

I do that, too. My Desktop distro is the latest Linux Mint, the audio stuff is done with 64 Studio (the current beta), After trying to do everything with one distro (Ubuntu Studio, Fedora with the CCRMA RPMs) I settled with this setup and I can say that this is exactly what I need. I simply installed 64 Studio and I could do everything I want immediately, without messing around with stuff I simply don't want to understand, because it distracts me from making music. I think you cannot go wrong with 64 Studio. Good luck!

[angelsguitar]

... I simply installed 64 Studio and I could do everything I want immediately, without messing around with stuff I simply don't want to understand, because it distracts me from making music. I think you cannot go wrong with 64 Studio. Good luck!

My case is similar. Actually my pc's (both laptop and desktop) have several partitions, so I'm always testing different distros (by the way, right now I'm downloading the new Musix 2 DVD that just came out!). Seems that the top contenders right now (at least in my opinion and experience with my hardware - others may differ) are 64 Studio and Ubuntu Studio 9.10.

However, when it's time to work seriously, I just boot 64 Studio and start working. No need to mess around; it just works out of the box. So, wrappin' it up, my vote will still go without doubt to 64 Studio.

[Capoeira]

Only 4 days now, using the standard rt-kernel. I'll test it properly later, once we get our digital console installed. Currently I'm rather busy with training.

I'm thinking of giving 9.10 a try......do you have made new experiences? your opinion, as a pro, wheits heavy here

[Chipfryer]

64Studio loaded and worked really well from the Live CD. Everything worked right from the box as it were, however.....
** When I downloaded the installation CD it kept stalling at the Software choices option. INSTALLATION FAILED (I forget the exact wording?).
I tried several DVD's, checked the midsum but to no avail. I tried other software and all was rosy. I've looked but cannot see anyone who has had the same problem so far?

[spm_gl]

I used 9.10 Studio during our last course, running Ardour and xjadeo. No problems whatsoever. No xruns with 21 tracks and hd video playing at the same time, with 5,8ms latency. We also did a 4 hour editing session, cutting audio to video, again with xjadeo spitting out 720p HD at 24fps. No problems. But sadly Ardour is still version 2.8.2, and jackdmp is not included either. So there is still some tuning to do.
On the other system, swapping the sound card messed up Xorg. No idea why. I only physically replaced the card, and from the first boot on, x crashed and the screen flickered. I'm too lazy to troubleshoot it, so I'll simply reinstall. Our audio and video files are on the server anyway, and we have an apt-cache, so reinstalling is pretty fast. I need to swap graphic cards around anyway, haven't quite decided which system gets which card yet.
2 days ago I updated my office workstation to karmic too.
Just watch out for the grub2 problems when doing a clean install. Sometimes it refuses to find the hard drive after installation.

[Capoeira]

thanks, i will give it a try

[Capoeira]

wow, I installed ubutu-studio from a ubtunu 9.10 minimal installation. no problems so far. first impression: latency seems as did go down once more ...... i could do one-track record in ardour with 2,9ms without xrun - an this is with a USB1-device (M-audio DUO). perhaps i will have to revidate my vote too. next days will show.

[Scary Hallo]

Hello spm_gl,
do you know what I can do if I run into the grub2 problem? Or how can I prevent this?
I want to make a clean install of Ubuntu Studio 9.10 within the next days

[autostatic]

I've never used 64 Studio, neither Ubuntu Studio, just plain Ubuntu with the Ubuntu Studio packages I need. I did try Ubuntu Studio once or twice but I like my systems clean and not crammed with all kinds of packages I don't need and that take me too much time to remove.
I liked 8.04, a lot. It has been sitting on my hard drive for over one and a half year. But I reached the point where I had to decide, either using all kind of PPA's that may contain buggy packages or switching to a more up to date version of the OS. So I switched to 9.04 to soon find out the stock RT kernel was no good. So I installed a 2.6.31 RT kernel and it hasn't let me down yet.
On my notebook Jaunty worked well, except for the nVidia GPU. So I tried Karmic and after some minor issues I got it running the way I want it. And so far I think the stock RT kernel is pretty good, it happens to be the exact kernel version I run with Jaunty, so maybe the Jaunty one is a backport.
I'm sticking with Ubuntu. The community is pretty huge so it's pretty easy to find a solution when you run into problems. And it's also a pretty stable distro, there has been a lot of talking about Karmic but at the moment I quite like it, besides Grub2 indeed and also GDM 2.28. And when, oh when is Audacious ever getting a bit less error-prone
I don't solely use Ubuntu. My machine at work is a Fedora 12 machine and all servers, at work and at home, are Debian. I do like Fedora too, but I simply had too much problems with some updates, even though that's getting better recently. And it's a bit too bleeding edge for me, bleeding edge and stability don't always go together that well.

Jeremy

[Capoeira]

I like my systems clean and not crammed with all kinds of packages I don't need and that take me too much time to remove.

that's why i always install ubuntu minimal