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merlyn wrote: ↑Mon May 25, 2020 3:41 pmOne strategy the elite use to control people is 'divide and conquer'. ... By that logic you're doing the elite's work for them. ... As long as ordinary people are fighting with each other the elite are safe.

But then you used a tag a few replies back. Expressions of a narrow mind falls exactly into the same category:

merlyn wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 10:50 pmThe Corbett report seems to me fairly typical right wing propaganda.

Of course the conditional is used. Seems. There's a way out.

This said, AJ was replying to bhilmers. His very next reply was to both bhilmers and you.

bhilmers who at least in my case used an insulting tone right off the bat. Cynically I could add: maybe you do not have a problem with that.

In any case setting oneself 'higher' as a 'rational' person isn't exactly the type of thing to attract flowers isn't it.

Or is it, in this case, just OK ?

bhilmers looks like having no qualms at all to treat people with insults. Which is a bit strange for someone who comments:

bhilmers wrote: ↑Mon May 25, 2020 2:04 amLOL! As someone who works in science it bothers me to no end when people spread this kind of garbage

I see it more as someone who needs to be identified with a 'certainty', no matter what.

Being asked about the current chief of the World Health Organization nominating tyrant Robert Mugabe as an honorific ambassador of the World Health Organization, he replies nothing.


"The fact that Mugabe died in a Singaporean hospital is the final act
of betrayal by a dictator who destroyed the health system of a country
that had saved many lives in the first 15 years of his repressive
rule." . The Guardian, Sept, 8 2019

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... ll-chinono

bhilmers quotes a World Health Organization page on the benefits of vaccines but when faced with some facts about the very same World Health Organization a short circuit seems to have happened.

He then insists on reading that page nevertheless, as that page embodies truth that he stands for.

A science person ignoring well-known facts to blindly focus on only one aspect that affects the whole world ?

In another, parallel world one could ask: "What ? You want me to believe Al Capone that I need security services for my little shop ?"

Science is a tool. Who is using the tool is what mostly matters as soon as one gets out of a not really comfortable nerdy position.

I'm fascinated by some science although not to the point of obliterating any societal consequences. At least not anymore. I have taken refuge as a nerd into the intricacies of science although when I popped my head out of it the time was long due to realize that science is only but a means. And one that can be quite limited at that once one ceased to be obsessively amazed by it.

Science is no substitute for human spirituality. Or even basic human behaviour.

So what we have here is the World Health Organization chief nominating in honour a person who has destroyed the health system of a country.

Isn't that ironic ?

And that's only one single point about the World Health Organization meanders.

Wasn't it Jesus who once said: "You can see the other person's smartphone but you cannot see the embedded subcutaneous microchip under your skin ?"

Please, let's calm down with the insults.

@Rainmak3r (or any other Italians), how is the situation in Italy now? The media over here in America used to cover it daily since it was one of the early hot zones. There hasn't been much follow up lately; I'm having a hard time finding reliable information about whether the medical facilities there are still overwhelmed, or if things are more under control.

Rocco Galatti is the well-known Canadian lawyer that will work towards demonstrating the invalidity of confinement while also working on the free choice regarding vaccines. The FPPLC fund has now reached $230 000 in less than a week. I gave $50.

An interview was made. Subtitles were added as both Galatti and the FPPLC president are switching between French and English. The interview mentions several 'accidents' that happened between the police force and citizens, amongst many other interesting topics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghka1b3aPVk

Italy ?

1)

"Italy: 96% of Coronavirus Fatalities Had Other Chronic Illnesses"

"ROME — The overwhelming majority of deaths with coronavirus in Italy have occurred in the presence of two or more serious chronic illnesses, according to a report from the country’s national health authority (ISS).

talian health authorities announced in a recent report that only 4.1 percent of fatalities testing positive for Wuhan coronavirus happened in the absence of serious comorbidities, while the average age of the deceased was over 80 years.

The average number of comorbidities among all Italian deaths with the coronavirus was 3.1, ISS revealed. Just 15 percent of fatalities occurred with the presence of just one other serious pathology, while 21.4 percent died with two other pathologies, and 59.6 percent with three or more pathologies.

The most common comorbidities were arterial hypertension (in 68.3 percent of cases), type-2 diabetes (30.1 percent of cases), ischemic heart disease (in 28.2 percent), atrial fibrillation (22.5 percent), chronic renal failure (20.4 percent)."

https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/0 ... illnesses/

2)

"Italy Says 96% of Virus Fatalities Suffered From Other Illnesses"

"Almost 96% of the country’s virus fatalities had previous medical conditions, data from Italy’s ISS health institute show. The ISS, which publishes a range of studies on the outbreak including a detailed weekly report, confirms a trend seen since the beginning of the emergency, with the average age of Italians who’ve died from the virus at around 80."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -illnesses

jonetsu wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 1:37 pmItaly ?

Are you Italian?

jonetsu wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 1:37 pm https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/0

Serious source is something else. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breitbart_News


@jonetsu @raboof Can we please not refer to any ~radical, ~fanatic, ... links here? THX

khz wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 2:29 pm

jonetsu wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 1:37 pm https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/0

Serious source is something else. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breitbart_News


@jonetsu @raboof Can we please not refer to any ~radical, ~fanatic, ... links here? THX

I do not know about Breitbart - thanks for providing the wikipedia link. There are also, according to wikipedia, classified as alt-right.

You have of course perused the link provided in the Breitbart article, did you ? Which is:

https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronaviru ... XtI39_rbl0

Which is from:

https://www.epicentro.iss.it/

Which curiously looks like this once translated:


But there's a flaw and I agree: I did not go through the report myself (the PDF). At least not at this time.

You can shoot the messenger, Breitbart in this case, but before doing so, did you peruse the links provided ?

And then, I also provided two sources. So, is Bloomberg also fanatic ?

When I see an article I do not take side immediately. This is not a witch hunt, isn't it ? I see if the references provided makes sense. In this case I did know about the nature of Breitbart, so I looked at the links provided.

Isn't that what any balanced approach to information should do in this era of immediate access to information ? It only takes a few minutes after all, and it's not like doing a marathon or any difficult exercise - one has to stay seated in a chair.

So once this is cleared up, the statement put forth is:

"Italian health authorities announced in a recent report that only 4.1 percent of fatalities testing positive for Wuhan coronavirus happened in the absence of serious comorbidities, while the average age of the deceased was over 80 years."

The natural question that follows is, does this related to the ISS report that's offered as a reference ? You know what the ISS is, right ?

bhilmers wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 2:13 pm

jonetsu wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 1:37 pmItaly ?

Are you Italian?

Are you a science person and do you also know philosophy as you mentioned previously ? I mean, does one need to be American to read news about the ongoing manifestations at the moment in the USA ? Should every non-American refrain from reading news - and sharing them - about the USA ? Is that what you are saying ?

Please clarify your thoughts !

This all said, I took a look at another Breitbart article. I most certainly do not agree at all with the title:

"Spain Revises Chinese Coronavirus Death Count Down by Nearly 2,000"

For the simple reason that the source of the virus is not well-defined. And also for the anti-China bashing that floats around. So I nevertheless read it and found that they are referencing an article from the English version of the popular newspaper El País.

And no, I am NOT Spanish. Does it matter ?

El País headline is:

"Spanish Health Ministry lowers coronavirus death toll by nearly 2,000"

https://english.elpais.com/society/2020 ... -2000.html

jonetsu wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 2:52 pmIs that what you are saying ?

I'm saying that Michael Willis was looking for first hand experience from Italians, not a link to a propaganda site, which links to another site, which links to a PDF you didn't read.

bhilmers wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 5:33 pm I'm saying that Michael Willis was looking for first hand experience from Italians...

Here is some news from Italy from an Italian Politician...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyH2ZCrBSQ0

calling it as it is!

I'm sorry to inform you that life isn't fair and bad things happen to good people.
One of these bad things is the current epidemic.
And just because you don't understand the measures that are to be taken, that doesn't mean it isn't real and that you can just "think for yourself"

So behave like a responsible adult and behave responsibly and stop believing and spreading all this crap.

P.S.
the moon landing was real, earth is round, chem-trails is just water vapor

@rghvdberg

I agree the earth is round, the evidence supports it. In fact one of my ancestors was burned at the stake for telling the roman power structure of his time the fact that the earth revolved around the sun rather than the sun revolving around the earth as many come to know is the case today.

I wonder would you have cheered his death on back then because the state required it of you like they require you believe in the lies that you have been taken with in these times.

Moon landing, not so sure about, not that interested because it is an off to the side subject.

But stratospheric aerosol injections - what you call chemtrails is a whole other story.
http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2015/ph240/llanos2/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/geoenginee ... 018-11-23/
https://thefreethoughtproject.com/direc ... injection/

There is climate change all right but it isn't changing the way they are telling you in the main stream - it is those using the military technologies they developed that is changing the climate.
https://apps.dtic.mil/docs/citations/ADA333462

You are the one the needs to grow up and free your mind from the superstition of authority and realize there is a new world order and that they created this pandemic to "justify" the so called need for a global government. Ignore it at you own peril if you so wish...
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/04/2 ... rld-order/
https://unnwo.org/