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EZDrummer alternative?

Postby flagos » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:25 pm

Hi to all. Any of you know some drummer application/plugin for linux?

I mean something a virtual drummer, like EzDrummer or something similar.

Thanks!

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Re: EZDrummer alternative?

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Re: EZDrummer alternative?

Postby Michael Willis » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:28 pm

Both of rghvdberg's suggestions are excellent. You can also try Hydrogen if you are interested in a drum sequencer app.

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Re: EZDrummer alternative?

Postby English Guy » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:52 pm

I am using hydrogen to trigger Drumgizmo (someone on these forums posted a kit for hydrogen) and that is the best results I have had programming drums on Linux.

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Re: EZDrummer alternative?

Postby flagos » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:16 am

Thanks very much for the answers so far.

I already work with Ardour in conjunction with Hydrogen. But 'm looking for something I saw in the macintosh environment. I think they called it "virtual drummer". It was a plug-in that would 'play' over a given bass track, and you could modify fills/beats/styles/sounds while playing. it was fabulous.

And I was wonder if there is something similar for linux.

Thanks again.

PD. I did't try DrumGizmo yet.

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Re: EZDrummer alternative?

Postby t3rtius » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:42 am

For me, MT Power Drum Kit works best, it even has the mixer which is similar to EZDrummer's:

https://www.powerdrumkit.com/

I have tried the AVL Drums and I found MT more flexible (especially because of the mixer).

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Re: EZDrummer alternative?

Postby tavasti » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:33 am

t3rtius wrote:For me, MT Power Drum Kit works best, it even has the mixer which is similar to EZDrummer's:

https://www.powerdrumkit.com/

For me drag & drop from MT Power Drum Kit to Mixbus/Ardour does not work, so it's usability is bit limited. From thread MT-PowerDrumKit Alternative ? you can find script which will extract midi loops from plugin to separate file. Those files can be imported, but this is annoying way to work. Also thread Midi drum pattern browser plugin has covered area, but no good solution still.

In general, for question 'replacement for EZDrummer' answering 'hydrogen/av drumkit/drumgizmo' is like answering to question 'Our band needs drummer' with 'I can borrow my drums' :-P
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Re: EZDrummer alternative?

Postby t3rtius » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:34 am

tavasti wrote:
t3rtius wrote:For me, MT Power Drum Kit works best, it even has the mixer which is similar to EZDrummer's:

https://www.powerdrumkit.com/

For me drag & drop from MT Power Drum Kit to Mixbus/Ardour does not work, so it's usability is bit limited. From thread MT-PowerDrumKit Alternative ? you can find script which will extract midi loops from plugin to separate file. Those files can be imported, but this is annoying way to work. Also thread Midi drum pattern browser plugin has covered area, but no good solution still.

In general, for question 'replacement for EZDrummer' answering 'hydrogen/av drumkit/drumgizmo' is like answering to question 'Our band needs drummer' with 'I can borrow my drums' :-P


I understand. Haven't tried the drag & drop function, to be honest. I'm usually trying to use tools that are as "agnostic" as possible, so in this case, I would best advise to make your own MIDI loops or tracks or buy them from Groove Monkee, for example and just use the drum plugin for the drum sounds. I'm really tired of software that wraps stuff into their own format and not use universal alternatives. That's why I'm seriously considering learning more DrumGizmo/DGEdit and make my own kits from plain wav samples.

Currently, however, I've got EZDrummer, Superior Drummer 3, Steven Slate Drums 4 & 5 all working in Mixbus and Reaper (using Wine and LinVST to convert the dlls). But the long term plan is in the above. :)

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Re: EZDrummer alternative?

Postby tavasti » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:03 am

t3rtius wrote:I understand. Haven't tried the drag & drop function, to be honest. I'm usually trying to use tools that are as "agnostic" as possible, so in this case, I would best advise to make your own MIDI loops or tracks or buy them from Groove Monkee, for example and just use the drum plugin for the drum sounds. I'm really tired of software that wraps stuff into their own format and not use universal alternatives. That's why I'm seriously considering learning more DrumGizmo/DGEdit and make my own kits from plain wav samples.

If need is only for drum sounds, then AVL drumkits with 'fan out' config, all drums to own channel is enough for me. 6 Separate channels to mix how you want. I don't know if DrumGizmo has same option available?
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Re: EZDrummer alternative?

Postby t3rtius » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:17 am

tavasti wrote:I don't know if DrumGizmo has same option available?


Yes, certainly. See this great tutorial on DrumGizmo in Ardour:

https://libremusicproduction.com/tutori ... zmo-ardour

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Re: EZDrummer alternative?

Postby tavasti » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:18 pm

t3rtius wrote:Yes, certainly. See this great tutorial on DrumGizmo in Ardour:

https://libremusicproduction.com/tutori ... zmo-ardour


That is great, thanks!
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Re: EZDrummer alternative?

Postby nilshi » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:16 pm

Here is a video about Drums in an Open Source environment with, with pros and cons.

"Drums: A comparative review of different options"

https://youtu.be/Qb-7dqUAxh0

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Re: EZDrummer alternative?

Postby merlyn » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:35 pm

Linux has some drum machines and drum samplers. What the OP wants is a robot drummer. The only software I can think of is Backup Band :

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=19563

I've never tried it, but apparently it does have robots.

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Re: EZDrummer alternative?

Postby tavasti » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:21 pm

merlyn wrote:Linux has some drum machines and drum samplers. What the OP wants is a robot drummer. The only software I can think of is Backup Band :

https://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopi ... 24&t=19563

I've never tried it, but apparently it does have robots.

I have tried, it is great, but not for this. It is robot for playing pre-programmed backgrounds for selected styles, no for composing.
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Re: EZDrummer alternative?

Postby ufug » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:39 pm

nilshi wrote:Here is a video about Drums in an Open Source environment with, with pros and cons.

"Drums: A comparative review of different options"

https://youtu.be/Qb-7dqUAxh0


Thanks for sharing this. Excellent presentation and an accurate assessment of where we are.

I was very excited to learn about Sononym, I had never heard of it before and I think it will be a huge help for me (I'm a loop hoarder).


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