mendo wrote:asbak wrote:They are San Francisco based so there's the first hint at potential trouble.
Why
It's a super expensive city and that will be reflected in the pricing of the product. Linux & Open Source products at premium corporate rates just doesn't feel right.
Hmm.
question: Which companies actually think of producing a sort of tech that is at least somehow sustainable and cares for some midterm durability?
I only imagine 2 hardware companies: Fairphone & shiftphone.
On the software side, Jolla sets the standard: our Jolla phone (I believe 1rst gen. purchased 2014) still receives updates!
Instead of feeding the
beast we should check what we can do to avoid creating nu waste each 2 yrs.
Come on, Apple does not even provide security updates for iOS 10 any more for devices purchased in 2014!
Musictech is crazy for always new gear but what happens to old stuff that does not live in the second hand market like a original 808?
The Apple model is fraudulent in my opinion. They deliberately cripple (and of course, they don't advertise this) their devices via software updates to run poorly and / or chew through the battery as part of a ploy to "encourage" their customers to upgrade.
Agreed that providing long support is ideal and the right thing to do.
I really like the Jolla approach because they also run android apps in a sandbox. So you are not isolated and can use useful apps like traffic directions etc.
Something like Jolla / Sailfish or whatever may yet become a viable alternative. However, I'm not crazy about the idea of tying in a Linux based phone OS with Android at all.
The reason? The Apple & Google "app culture" is to lure users with supposedly "free to use" applications which are coded to spy on every facet of their lives. Those kinds of practices are not in the spirit of Linux and Open Source software in my opinion.
I realise that coders have to eat and earn a living, but this kind of model is unethical and abusive in my view.
I also realise that there is an enormous base of already coded applications for Android, and that it would seem like a missed opportunity to not integrate a Linux phone with it.
However, if the rationale were to make a Linux phone relatively privacy conscious and secure, it would be utterly self-defeating to integrate it with the Android ecosystem.
If the idea were to make a Linux phone behave like, and tap into the Android phone experience.... my view would be "What is the point????" One may as well just stick with Android in such a case.
I believe that there is a real need for a mobile / phone ecosystem that is less tied into the Corporate Spying Machine. It won't attract the mass market, and because of that there will be a cost knock on effect for such devices. However, there is a big gap between the $500 ball park figure for this Linux phone vs a similar Android design and hardware spec of certain Xiaomi models which go for around $140.
I think a +- $300 phone Linux phone is a more realistic proposition. Preferably it should not be integrated with anything Android & Google App Store because that would defeat whatever supposed security features it has.