LinuxMusicians

Now I'm mad.

rghvdberg wrote:In no way should rnbc have to apologize.
He's the author of many great apps and is a great asset to the Linux audio community.

The first sentence has nothing to do with the second, it's not like people get a free "No Need To Apologize Pass" if they significantly the community, but the most absurd thing you said is that you seem to think that you have the right to decide for rnbc whether they want to apologize or not.

I'm not mad either. I am as cold as a Briton, and I was pointing out the absurd aspect of it all. Why do I get so much discredit here, repeatedly?

None of what I said in my previous post is new. All of that has been reported before several times by me here, in this thread and in other threads, some of them by other people, too. Apparently, the theory that I'm either lying or have no clue about what I'm saying is usually the preferred choice.

Talk about repetition, let me draw this for you now:

- One DAW runs Airwave (i.e. Airwave works!), but crashes a ridiculous number of times in every session.
This is not Airwave or Wine or Linus or Bill Gates' fault. It is no excuse to tell me to use Windows.

- Another DAW runs Airwave (i.e. Airwave works!), and NEVER crashes - at all! Ok, some rare plugins will crash, but those plugins just do not work. Those that work NEVER crash. But that DAW is rather expensive and has something that is tantamount to a time bomb so I said "I can't rely on it. "
This is not Airwave or Wine or Linus or Bill Gates' fault. It is no excuse to tell me to use Windows.

- Another DAW runs Airwave (i.e. Airwave works!)... until you remove a plugin or close a plugin window, then it freezes and has to be killed.
This is not Airwave or Wine or Linus or Bill Gates' fault. It is no excuse to tell me to use Windows.

- Another DAW runs Airwave (i.e. Airwave works!)... but can't handle a lot of plugins. That may be fixed in the near future. But it crashed a lot on me, even using just Linux native plugins.
This is not Airwave or Wine or Linus or Bill Gates' fault. It is no excuse to tell me to use Windows.

So yes, there is always something, isn't there? But I've created none of this situation and I am not accusing anyone. I am just reporting the current state of things. Don't shoot the messenger.

Maybe I shouldn't pour gasoline on fire, but this:

Luc wrote: Don't mind me, I'm just venting my frustration.

Didn't properly sound like a call for "constructive help" nor a well documented bug(s) report either, as both are different concepts from "venting".

Back to business, how about this:

Luc wrote: I really dislike Reaper, I hate the GUI and workflow, but maybe it will end up saving my day? Will I be able to rely on it? We shall see.

I am not a Reaper fan myself. Did you get a chance to try it though? Seems like few people are happy about how Win plugins work with that (running the DAW through wine). Maybe you could integrate it in your workflow if it works well enough.

42low wrote:Besides some minor problems (the know LMMS crashes for instance) most works well.

Uh, what? There is ANOTHER Linux DAW that crashes often?
Geez, and this must be true, since I am not the one reporting it.

42low wrote:I can do quit well with ardour without win plugins (so many other very good plugins for it). Extremely surprising how good that totally free software works.

42low wrote:I keep everything simple and i hardly ever have any problem. I try to keep my system as it was meant to be. And all works great here.

42low wrote:So IMHO it ain't all shit. I experience it even as very good. (but i already said i keep my system 'clean from tricks' and use it as it is build in general)

You're such a broken record.

You quite obviously don't realize how selfish you sound. You sound a lot like Stallman:

"Look, I don't need any nonfree software whatsoever in a single minute of my life. I'll browse the web with Lynx (assuming Lynx is "free" enough for him) if I have to."
- Sooooo everybody else should pick up all of their nonfree software and delete it immediately. If Stallman never needs it, neither does anybody else.

Very similar postures, taken from real life anecdotes:

"I haven't eaten a single piece of meat or animal product in many years and I don't miss it at all."
- Eeeeeeverybody let's just throw away all kinds of meat and animal product and never eat it again. Problem solved.

"Why do so many people have to have cars? I've never had a car and I go wherever I need to go and do whatever I need to do and..."
- Say no more! As of today, all cars will be taken to the pound and smashed and recycled into tuna f... erm, sorry, um... whatever car-hating vegans think we should do with metal. Problem solved.

"Why do you waste your time watching TV? It's such a load of bollocks! I sold my set many years ago and never looked back, I don't miss it all. Go read a book!"
- Very well, sir. All television stations will now be extinct, yes, including the Beeb, and all television sets will confiscated. If you don't need it, clearly nobody else does. Problem solved.

Oh, I could do this comedy skit all day long. This thing writes itself. Of course I exaggerate, but not that much. I've actually met people exactly like that. My mother was one of them, and I've been the no-TV guy for 15 years. (I just don't lecture anyone on it.)

You know what you deserve, you deserve to meet a celibate, fasting monk who lives in a cave and will tell you to get rid of everything you have and relish in enlightenment until the day the earth claims your pointless existence.

Remember: to many, many Windows users, we are a bunch of pigheaded pretentious nerds who waste their time using the closest you can get to space alien technology while we could be using what works just so very fine for them, and never worry about compiling source or checking hardware compatibility.

Everybody has their preferences and reasons. Please please please let me get what I want.

About Reaper (to CrocoDuck), yes, I tried it last month or so, and it seemed... well, unfinished. The Linux version. The Windows version on Wine is not viable for me. Everything looks tiny and hideous. It will have to be the Linux version. Like I said, I don't like it, but I have my eyes on that ball, too. In fact, I am going to download the latest release right now.