some practising

[funkmuscle]

hahaha yes!! love it!!, thanx for the memories.. I forgot this song!! great stuff!!

[GMaq]

Hi 42low,

heh! Rockin' out! I had forgotten all about Accept, nice one!

[funkmuscle]

Why you all forgot?? There great!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0idKmP9xgg

they killed us with Balls to the Wall in the clubs here.
every club was playing that as if it was their best song.

[jonetsu]

I don't get it with the 'fast' part. Not many notes are played. Is the recording played at 1.5 the normal speed (because of the voice of the singer) ? I do not know Accept. so I checked a video, 'Teutonic Terror'. Not much of a terror, really ! It's more like holding the same note and banging away at it fast.

I see playing fast as in playing many notes in a sustained way eg. not just 30 seconds, while keeping the beat, as in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzlMw8jqv4k

This is the end part of 'Da Futura'. This one is about people being nothing else than machines, programmable life forces, when compared to higher lifeforms. The playing in there is fast and keeps the beat. There are two bass players.


Not in the topic, the recording above is from 2005 or so. The same song, same band, exactly 40 years ago. The song starts from the beginning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a73XLkf43-s

This adds a new meaning in keep a fast beat through time.

[jonetsu]

I don't get it with the 'fast' part. Not many notes are played.

No?? Then i have to explain.

In the tutorial, there's only one 30-second part that is actually fast, from 2:30 to 3:00. In the Magma excerpt I took as an example, the fingers are actually moving fast all the time (apart from the some 1:36 intro). It goes on and on. And this is from the two basses, although we don't see much from the 2nd bass player. The basses and drums must be in sync. There's no leeway. Everytime we see the bass player and the guitarist for that matter (but mostly the bass) the fingers are moving fast. Not so with the Accept song. Not at all actually. Yes, the picking is fast. Is that fast playing ?

The BPM does not matter much. You can try to follow 90 BPM in 1/32 notes for 5 minutes and have a real hard time. And then one can play whole notes at 210 BPM and find it easy.

One person sets Da Futura at 180 BPM:

https://www.jellynote.com/fr/partition/ ... ura#tabs:A

That's how I consider fast playing. Seeing the fingers move fast on the fretboard, on the beat (not a short solo). This is why I was surprised to see that the Accept song qualified as 'fast playing'.

You know, the greatest part of the Magma video, it's from 6:11 to 6:15. This is totally awesome.

[jonetsu]

Tried it already? Try it, and then consider again.

I could give it a try on acoustic guitar. Or I could come up with some fast in the same 'stroking' style: that would be better. I'll try to go that way in an upcoming improv. Now I'm working on an ambient piece, not exactly the same thing.

I would approach the fast playing like in neidan martial arts. It is what I currently do for practising on the fretboard. Relax, and then relax even more. Not to create contradictory tension inside, with the nerves, with the muscles, with the tendons. No obstacle inside. All the body working for the same thing as much as possible. Flowing. This is how to hit fast, so it should be good with fast stroking also. Ah, I also need to use a pick, which I rarely do, but that's OK.