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Re: My Second Song: "Roamin' 'round the World"

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:37 pm
by GraysonPeddie
Heh... I'm disappointed that I don't get comments in KVRAudio... Maybe they are not interested in my style of music.

Re: My Second Song: "Roamin' 'round the World"

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:42 pm
by tnovelli
Roamin' would be decent as a soundtrack. Crowded field, though. I wouldn't bother sharing it on Soundcloud soundtrack-related groups, for instance, as they get spammed with thousands of cheesy demos by mediocre composers trying to make a few bucks. Old fashioned word-of-mouth is probably your best bet.

Re: My Second Song: "Roamin' 'round the World"

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:04 pm
by folderol
With KVR it takes time to develop a reputation. Rome wasn't built in a day. Etc.

Edit
It's usually acceptable to bump your post a couple of times if it drops off the first page too quickly.

Re: My Second Song: "Roamin' 'round the World"

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:15 pm
by GraysonPeddie
tnovelli wrote:Roamin' would be decent as a soundtrack. Crowded field, though. I wouldn't bother sharing it on Soundcloud soundtrack-related groups, for instance, as they get spammed with thousands of cheesy demos by mediocre composers trying to make a few bucks. Old fashioned word-of-mouth is probably your best bet.
Then I will wait until Easter dinner so I can share my songs with my loved ones and help get my music out there.

Thanks.

Re: My Second Song: "Roamin' 'round the World"

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:37 pm
by GraysonPeddie
Well, I suppose both of my songs did not work too well. I know music is art, but I guess I don't want my music humanized after all and that my songs are too long. My songs are supposed to be laid-back!

Re: My Second Song: "Roamin' 'round the World"

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:40 pm
by glowrak guy
GraysonPeddie wrote:Heh... I'm disappointed that I don't get comments in KVRAudio... Maybe they are not interested in my style of music.
No, you just posted in a fairly low traffic area, even among topics with more replies,
half are the authors responses. I'd suggest editing your post, put the feedback request and song link,
right at the top.

KVR is a huge community, all styles are well represented. KVR host ongoing 'One Synth Challenge' contests,
and the song enties for each contest are archived for download. Zynaddsubfx was the subject of one of the contests.
I would suggest browsing some of these results, for inspiration, and proof of progress. They are all instrumentals.
Enter some of those contests, and there will be some good feedback.

'xhip' is the subject of the current challenge, and runs fine in reaper/wine. Only freeware effects are allowed.
You can render tracks in reaper, export to favorite linux daw for enhancement/mastering etc.
And also route reaper output via qjackctl to any available input, rakarrack, calf EQ etc

OSC sticky at the link:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=1

Re: My Second Song: "Roamin' 'round the World"

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:04 pm
by glowrak guy
GraysonPeddie wrote:Well, I suppose both of my songs did not work too well. I know music is art, but I guess I don't want my music humanized after all and that my songs are too long. My songs are supposed to be laid-back!
Your songs are not yet finished...
'laid back', 'too long', and humanized, are three separate entities, and not universally defined.
Tempo and duration do not define 'laid back' or 'too long'. And careful editing need not produce
a humanized (predictable/robotic) result.

Listen to great themes from movies like 'Out Of Africa', 'The Natural', and Chariots of Fire etc.
Great music usually can't be edited, it became great as it was edited.
Similarly, great music is difficult to enhance. All the audio parking spots are taken.
Once you've created the theme, then comes the hard part!

Re: My Second Song: "Roamin' 'round the World"

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:04 am
by GraysonPeddie
Thanks for the criticism. I might take the comments into consideration, but please listen to this song called Explorers along with a couple of songs from David Arkenstone and you will know what I mean. The genre for the "Citizen of Time" album is "new age" and my song falls under the same genre.

I don't understand why any of you can classify my music as a soundtrack. The two songs I've had there is how I define my music. Its how I'm going to set a trend.

I might take my time to listen to film music, but that does not mean I will implement it in my next songs I'm going to write.

Re: My Second Song: "Roamin' 'round the World"

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:47 pm
by glowrak guy
GraysonPeddie wrote: I don't understand why any of you can classify my music as a soundtrack. The two songs I've had there is how I define my music. Its how I'm going to set a trend.
Having something somewhere defines nothing.

I simply suggested similarities, potential uses etc,

Classifications are quite meaningless at this point. Nobody really cares
how an artist defines their own music. Genre labels are just convenient meta-data.
Listeners want good songs, and there are some objective standards
of composition worth considering, especially for a new artist,
hoping for their songs to be heard twice, let alone hoping to set a trend.
Cheers

Re: My Second Song: "Roamin' 'round the World"

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:57 am
by GraysonPeddie
Okay, thanks.

Re: My Second Song: "Roamin' 'round the World"

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:59 pm
by tnovelli
GraysonPeddie wrote:Thanks for the criticism. ... I don't understand why any of you can classify my music as a soundtrack..... I might take my time to listen to film music....
Don't listen to the critics :D
The fact that people are paying any attention at all to your music means you're on the right track.

I wouldn't say it *is* a soundtrack, just that it could *work* as a soundtrack. It's long, not too repetitive or mechanical, sort of ambient, instrumental, doesn't demand to be the center of attention -- generally desirable qualities in a soundtrack. Not that there's anything wrong with soundtracks. I've made a few myself; it can be pretty damn fun, and musically interesting.

It's not just film music... there's youtube shows, podcasts, and my area: video games... action, adventure, RPGs, puzzles, social/mobile crap. On one end of the spectrum you have immersive gameplay on high-end hardware, with soundtracks ranging from subtle to epic. On the other end you have to work with tinny speakers/earbuds and noisy listening environments. In the middle you have slower-paced gameplay with room for more serious music, not too annoying, possibly in a (pseudo)historical genre, in all sorts of styles and instrumentation... lots of different niches.

Just some ideas for you and-or anyone else following this thread.

Re: My Second Song: "Roamin' 'round the World"

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:49 pm
by GraysonPeddie
Whew... Thanks.

I did what I can without trying to compromise in repetition. Honestly, there's nothing wrong with that as long as it's not boring, right? And then I went ahead and changed up some of my song to give it more variation. And so I did. (sigh) I also tightened up timings that I should have done due to struggles I've had when writing music. Quite an effort for sure.

I've been called an "ego" for my right to express myself in music. Walt Disney got criticized for building a Disneyland theme park because it's going to be a flop and a disaster, but he kept going with it and it became a success. At least that is what my mom told me, but I don't know where she got that info.