[SOLVED] Any Csound Gurus Want/Tried to Tackle Hadron Synth?

[ssj71]

Hadron is an open source "particle" synth capable of both synthesis and realtime granular effects. The Csound source code is freely available and for mac and windows users there are also free binary VSTs and AUs.
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2012/11/g ... in-videos/
http://www.partikkelaudio.com/

I know nothing of Csound and am stuck trying to run it with the error:
Undefined macro: '$_PartikkelTables__N_A'

This is csound 6.04 from the kxstudio repos.

I found in the ML archives this mention of the same but no reply or fix mentioned:
https://sourceforge.net/p/csound/mailma ... /34531674/

Any Csound gurus out there who can help me try this one out? I'm hoping the open-source benefits can come to light here.

Thanks.

[ssj71]

I've gotten a little further, finding that I can escape the '$' in certain macros to get past that error. But now I'm getting the error:
"Cannot open #include'd file inc/setModFuncTable.inc"

and am stuck. You can see what I did at https://github.com/ssj71/hadron-particl ... f6680cd362

I've filed a bug about the substitution thing:
https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/609

Edit:
the interested might find this thread interesting too: https://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopi ... 293#p45217

[davephillips]

I know nothing of Csound and am stuck trying to run it with the error:
Undefined macro: '$_PartikkelTables__N_A'

This is csound 6.04 from the kxstudio repos.

I gave it another whack with the latest Csound 6.07 built from git sources. Still no joy, I get the same macro error, so I wrote Oeyvind for advice. I'll report here if he can help.

Best,

dp

[davephillips]

Yo ssj,

Okay, I have it working here now, thanks to Oeyvind's help. He sent me an improved CSD file available here :

http://oeyvind.teks.no/ftp/Hadron/hadro ... ne_cs6.zip

You may want to adjust the sr/ksmps values in Hadron.orc (mine are sr=48000 and ksmps=64 to match my JACK settings) and you'll need to rename one include file (change setModfuncTable.inc to setModFuncTable.inc). After that you should be able to run the CSD.

However, it's possible that your version of Csound won't support everything in Partikkel. Let me know of any other errors that might show up, I'll report them to Oeyvind.

I think this instrument might be portable to Cabbage. The FLTK GUI is merely functional, a much nicer interface could be created with Cabbage.

HTH,

dp

[ssj71]

Hi Dave!

Thanks for your help! After renaming setModFuncTable.inc and setting --rtmidi=alsa I'm hitting the error:

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ALSA lib rawmidi.c:286:(snd_rawmidi_open_noupdate) Unknown RawMidi 4
ALSA: error opening MIDI input device: '4'
 *** error opening MIDI in device: -1 (Unknown MIDI error)

It opens a window very briefly but then immediately closes it, so I'm a lot closer than I was yesterday. Any ideas?

[davephillips]

Hi Dave!

Thanks for your help! After renaming setModFuncTable.inc and setting --rtmidi=alsa I'm hitting the error:

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ALSA lib rawmidi.c:286:(snd_rawmidi_open_noupdate) Unknown RawMidi 4
ALSA: error opening MIDI input device: '4'
 *** error opening MIDI in device: -1 (Unknown MIDI error)

It opens a window very briefly but then immediately closes it, so I'm a lot closer than I was yesterday. Any ideas?

Open the CSD and set -M4 to -Ma.

[Rory]

I think I may have a copy of a Cabbage version of Hadron. If it's Ok with Oeyvind I can dig it up. I'm just not sure if it was the full package.

[ssj71]

Open the CSD and set -M4 to -Ma.

There it is! I can now run Hadron_Csound_Standalone.csd but I can't figure out how to get midi in. Niether Jack nor VMPK sees any midi connections. PulseAudio shows csound as playing back though. (EDIT I'm reading http://www.csounds.com/manual/html/RealTimeLinux.html I think the answer is there, but I'll have to wait till tomorrow to try more)

The FLTK version says "csound: rawmidi.c:974: snd_rawmidi_write: Assertion `rawmidi' failed." after a few tweaks to the -odac flags.

I think I may have a copy of a Cabbage version of Hadron. If it's Ok with Oeyvind I can dig it up. I'm just not sure if it was the full package.

That would be great! I assume you know how to get in contact with him better than I do. He's commented on my bug report and thats the only contact I've had.

I think this synth needs just a little TLC but deserves much more recognition than it has received. I'm excited about this.

[sysrqer]

Wow, never seen that synth before, looks impressive. Definitely would be fantastic if one of you clever people can get it working

[glowrak guy]

how to get midi in. Niether Jack nor VMPK sees any midi connections.

I have an old/odd system, but in one case where midi was weirdly not happening,
running Tonespace vst, and configuring the midi within it, exposed it.
Cheers

[Rory]

I've managed to dig up the one Oeyvind sent me about a year ago. I'm still trying to iron out a few little issues but Oeyvind said he was glad to help. I'll get back to you when I have something to show.

[ssj71]

Got it. If anybody wants to try it out just download my repo with the little tweaks and follow the readme.
https://github.com/ssj71/hadron-particle-synth
I haven't put it through the ringer, but some interesting sounds already.

Hopefully soon we'll have a prettier, more usable cabbage version.

[Rory]

Here's a link to some info and the Linux version that Oeyvind put together. You should probably use the latest version of Cabbage to run it but it will probably run fine with older builds.

http://forum.cabbageaudio.com/t/announc ... abbage/169

[ssj71]

Thanks Rory. I'll let you know how it works for me once I get a chance to try it.

Just curious why are all plugins default with 8 ports? That seems like it will just be annoying to use with ardour.

[Rory]

I know. It's true. Actually on Linux I can make it a build option. It's not so annoying in other DAWs. It's fine in Bitwig for example where it defaults to the first stereo pair. I will see if I can set a preferred arrangement for channels. Should be possible.