Ubuntu Studio Install

[Mr Qwerky]

I want to install Ubuntu Studio 9.04 (on an old HP computer/dual boot with XP). But when I start the computer with the BIOS set up correctly it doesn't boot into the DVD+R disc, it just starts XP. I've used this DVD before to do an installation (on another computer) and it went fine. So does anyone know what I can try next?

Edit > I didn't know where to post this, so mods feel free to move it.

[spm_gl]

You could try the trick I've used to get a netbook boot from usb: disable booting from harddrive in the bios, i.e. remove the hd from the boot sequence options.

[Mr Qwerky]

spm_gl...

In the BIOS I set the IDE Primary Master to "None" but all I got was... DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER. I think the problem exists because the DVD ROM player might only recognize DVD-R discs... I also read somewhere that (I think) you can install a minimal Ubuntu using a CD and then upgrade to Ubuntu Studio via the net. But I'm not too keen, because I know basically nothing about Linux and I think some people had some problems when they tried upgrading. It'd be nice if there was a smaller Ubuntu Studio that could be put onto a CD... Thanks for the help

[spm_gl]

You could try a large usb-stick, but that'd probably cause even more problems. I can't recommend the upgrade path either, caused me serious grief (which is why I use 64studio beta now). Or borrow a dvd-drive from someone.

[Mr Qwerky]

I've got Puppy linux on a USB stick. But on this HP computer, even though there's a BIOS USB/ZIP boot option and even though the stick's light flashes twice while booting, it still boots straight into XP (the Puppy USB stick does work)... And I do have an external DVD RW drive, but because it uses a USB connection, the HP once again won't boot from it.... Which leaves (at this stage) the potentially problematic upgrade path.

But thanks once again spm_gl , you've come up with some very good suggestions.

[spm_gl]

I wouldn't really bother with ubuntustudio, unless you have a really good reason for using ubuntu jaunty (9.04). 64studio 3.0 (only available as beta, but really stable) is based on ubuntu hardy (8.04) and has a far more stable real-time kernel.
BTW, usb-sticks sometimes show up as hard disks in the bios, try sticking it in before booting, and check the hd's available in the boot sequence. On one of my computers, the stick would magically appear as an ide drive.
Another edit: use hp's bootutils under xp for making a bootable stick, sadly seems to work better than the OS variant.

[Mr Qwerky]

I only found out about this Studio 64 yesterday (when I discovered this forum). I don't have a 64 bit system (and doesn't it cost money?). I'll check it out further when I get a chance. Basically I'm thinking that I need to get a "Linux studio/OS" that fits onto a CD. Maybe this 64 OS will do the trick. Thanks once again

[spm_gl]

64studio is free/OS, and there is a 32bit build available. Finding the beta iso is a bit difficult though.

[Mr Qwerky]

Uh huh. Cheers for that... Regarding your latter edit in the other post - I don't understand it (I'm sometimes very dumb when it comes to computers). Umm, why would I use the boot utilities in HP (I don't even know where they are or really what they are). I was under the belief that the USB stick has to be FAT formatted (I think this Puppy stick is FAT16)? Yeah, I'm a bit confused.

[spm_gl]

A usb-stick is not bootable by default, it needs a kind of MBR written. There is an open source utility avaiable that does that, and a small (freeware) windows program from HP. In both, you load the iso you want on the stick, and it writes it on there in a bootable format.

[Mr Qwerky]

I quickly checked out the USB/HP thing (I'm assuming the Puppy linux MBR/software isn't recognized by the HP computer). And I found this website:

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/Te ... ITY-I23839

So, even though the software appears to be for servers, it might work on XP (i.e. XP based on NT/2000).... And I also tried looking in the BIOS for the HDs available in the boot sequence. But I couldn't see anything... Overall, I need to do some more research/reading before I continue, so I'll let you know how I go.

And, I know I've said thanks before spm_gl, but thank you. I really do appreciate the info and the help.

[spm_gl]

Here's the correct link:
http://h50178.www5.hp.com/local_drivers ... P27608.exe
and here's the open-source tool:
http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/

There is also the "linux way" using on-board tools, but I found that to be rather tricky.

[nocebox]

Are you sure you've burned the file as an image and not as data to the disc? If not, you should burn another CD as an image, and your problem should be soulved. It seems that you didn't. Good luck.

[Capoeira]

another way is to install from the .iso you have on the HD.
for this you need to make a entry in GRUB which loads the kernel (vmlinuz and initrd.gz) wich you can find here (jaunty): http://ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaun ... /hd-media/
this kernel will serch for the iso on its own.
i have only tested this with the hardy-version and a 64-studio 3 beta iso (http://www.64studio.com/node/262), but it will work as those kernels are made for that porpose

[dArAzAc]

As a side note, I advise against UbuStu Jaunty, I, along with many others, have been having serious Kernel crashes. See [http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1137378]. I suggest the Hardy install (as does UbuStu) [http://ubuntustudio.org/downloads] if you want to avoid some stress, and be instantly productive/stable.