Use linux and NON DAW

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Use linux and NON DAW

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Hi all.
I'm totally new to this forum and linux.
I have no clue how to use linux but I'd like to be able to play about on "NON-Timeline" DAW, since I've heard its a simple program and need something basic to get me back into making music.
The only problem is that I have no idea how to get it and I would very-much like someone to tell me step by step what to do as if I had the mental capacity of a toddler since I've always used windows.
Thanks.

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More info about Non: http://non.tuxfamily.org/wiki/About

Non is not mainstream app, and therefore it's not found packaged in most distributions.

KXStudio has it packaged, so if you are using Debian / Ubuntu, you'll get it there. I thinks also Arch has it.

And for Non-daw, indeed it's simple as of not containing bells and whistles. However, using it may not be simplest task. For example, after editing your recordings, you can't export it to wav-file. Instead you play it throu mixer app (containing effects, etc), and from mixer you record your masterpiece.
For recording you can use non-daw, and find your recording from NSM\ Sessions/YOUR-SESSION-NAME/Non-DAW.nXXXX/sources. Or record that to audacity?

I personally like Non, but since it's not very common, getting help for it is not so easy. You can't find tutorial video on youtube, etc. Non mailinglist is helpfull: http://non.tuxfamily.org/wiki/Community

For using Non, you need to know jack audio routing. Sure, for most of the linux audio programs, that's same thing.

For basic workflow for recording & mixing audio with Non, you probably want to:

- Start non-session-manager
- Start non-timeline, non-mixer from there
- Start patchage / qjackctl to make audio routings

Then maybe recording audio directly to non-timeline, edit it, mix it with mixer. I personally get my beats from Hydrogen, and synth melodies with non-sequencer. Nice thing in Non is properly done jack integration. Pressing Play/Record on non-timeline will start hydrogen & sequencer, all in sync. That way, you don't need to record drums or synths to non-timeline, because you can mix them in just on final stage (if you want).
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non is not appearing in qjackctl patch bay
any idea how to solve this ?
there is no option in NoN to make it run as "jack compatible mode afaik

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phil123456 wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 2:08 pm
non is not appearing in qjackctl patch bay
any idea how to solve this ?
there is no option in NoN to make it run as "jack compatible mode afaik
Which part of non you are launching? Anyway, is it timeline or mixer, you need to add there channel / strip what could be connected.
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@apehuf: Back to your original question. If you are a Windows user with limited Linux experience, then you may be biting off more than you can chew all at once by diving headfirst into the Non-world. You need a fallback option. I won't discourage you from taking on a challenge, and Non is powerful and fun, very Unix-y, and all that, but if it turns out to be too much to take in, then try Audacity. Most people can get Audacity up and running without too much trouble.

Then when you feel up to it, dig into Non again and see if you can tackle it the second time around.

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milo wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 4:54 pm
@apehuf: Back to your original question. If you are a Windows user with limited Linux experience, then you may be biting off more than you can chew all at once by diving headfirst into the Non-world.
Please note dates, maybe he has done something else meanwhile :-)
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LOL, sorry. Just trying to be helpful. :)

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Re: Use linux and NON DAW

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I'm not sure if I would advise Audacity. It's a audio editor. Ardour.org might be your best bet then.

To record something simple and quick, non-timeline from the non-daw is a good option, sure.

There are packages for all major distros I think (for ubuntu / debian use them from KXstudio). It's quite easy to compile too, but that's not for newbies.

For Non this might be useful:
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=21415

(I think you should add a track (key a), before you see it in the patchbay)

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