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best way to upgrade from ubuntu studio to kxstudio

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:43 pm
by slipstream5
Hello!
On a spare partition, I want to use XFCE as the desktop, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS as the base, but otherwise use Kxstudio for audio production, as this has worked pretty good for me when Ubuntu 12.04 LTS was still supported. I love using KxStudio just not as comfortable with KDE...

I originally had Xubuntu 14.04 LTS already installed so I had tried to follow full instructions from: http://libremusicproduction.com/answer/ ... -reinstall
which includes a link to your enabling the Kxstudio repos for Ubuntu 14.04.

but that didn't work out. My firewire audio interface was on but not connected but Cadence said it was running and it still wouldn't connect after reboots. It seemed that I wasen't in the audio group either.

then I decided to install ubuntu studio 14.04 (audio packages only) instead and then I followed instructions from

http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/Documen ... ry:Upgrade

but as I was updating, I realised that the links in the steps are outdated - good for ubuntu 12.04 LTS.

For example, I realised that some Kxstudio packages that were being installed were from Lucid repos as well as Trusty. Also,
Step 3 - Install the KXStudio Desktop
For XFCE -> 'kxstudio-desktop-xfce'
doesn't exist I guess for 14.04.


Rather then start over I simply added the 2 commands recommened by libremusicproduction.com :
If you would like to install all software packages from KXstudio but keep your existing desktop environment as default (Unity, XFCE, LXDE) you can install the following packages -

kxstudio-default-settings
kxstudio-meta-all
I haven't had a chance to test anything yet. But I am concerned that I have now installed outdated or conflicting packages.
I don't mind re-installing once again if necessary. I am hoping to get a similar or improved experience that I had using KxStudio over the Ubuntu Studio 12.04 base/desktop.

Re: best way to upgrade from ubuntu studio to kxstudio

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:07 am
by slipstream5
Hello falkTX!

I've had a chance to try things.
As far as being in the audio group -installing Ubuntu Studio the second time around solved it - the only thing was that the installer asked me to choose between two audio scripts- one belonged to U Studio and the others was yours -I believe that I selected Kxstudio's script -which was dated from 2013. (There was only a couple of differences including the rt priority which I don't clearly remember now). Choosing the package maintainer's version as opposed to keeping the default version was correct?

One thing that is missing is access to the CPU governor/scaler from within Cadence, which is greyed out. Am I missing a package?

So far I've managed to get Cadence to start Jack after disabling PulseAudio in startup. Also I got to use Ardour4 via Claudia.
I have managed to use the PulseAudio bridge for flash videos.

ok I just want to confirm: is there any way I ended up with duplicate or conflicting repos (and applications)- if I did both:

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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kxstudio-team/kxstudio
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install kxstudio-repos
sudo apt-get update
and then:

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wget https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-debian/+archive/kxstudio/+files/kxstudio-repos_8.3.1~kxstudio1_all.deb
sudo dpkg -i kxstudio-repos_8.3.1~kxstudio1_all.deb
kxstudio-default-settings
kxstudio-meta-all
??

Finally, what mixer should I be using? So far I always access audio applications from within Claudia and Claudia launcher ...


Note: -I also used the Kxstudio welcome screen to upgrade as well but I can't tell if it changed anything.

Thanks!

Re: best way to upgrade from ubuntu studio to kxstudio

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 7:40 am
by thetotalchaos
There are two equally relevant and useful ways to "upgrade" from Ubuntu Studio to KXStudio, and i mean that any approach has its potential advantages and disadvantages. But it basically leads to a point to choose to use Pulseaudio or not.

1. Install the KXStudio repos according to the KXStudio official wiki http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Repositories And after performing an upgrade you will have rock solid Ubuntu Studio with up-to-date audio software. You can stop here, or you can proceed further in KXStudio-tify the system

2. Install the Cadence suite,

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sudo apt-get install cadence
As you probably know Cadence gives you the option to unload or not load Pulseaudio and route Alsa through Jack. This is basically what differs KXStudio from the other GNU/Linux distros. You will also see that Cadence is even integrated in the Ubuntu Studio menu, so probably even the developers were having this option in mind.


As for mixer for the Alsa sound system you can use the pre-installed XFCE-Mixer, for which you can find a nice panel icon, if you check carefully in the XFCE panel options.

Happy hacking, Totalchaos

Re: best way to upgrade from ubuntu studio to kxstudio

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:34 pm
by slipstream5
Thanks falkTX and thetotalchaos !
I've not had time to re-install yet with these instructions, I'll confirm the results when I get a chance!

Re: best way to upgrade from ubuntu studio to kxstudio

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:26 pm
by slipstream5
Hi falkTX,

Today, I had time to re-install Ubuntu Studio and then enable the KxStudio repositories, but I discovered that Sourceforge.net site is mostly down! I did find part of your website up at http://gaussrifle.de/ but part of the repositories are still at sourceforge, so they failed to download. I went ahead with installing kxstudio-default-settings and cadence anyways.

Do you know if anything important (including dependancies etc...) is missing and will my installation be messed up again? I did find at least the applications on a mirror site but I will have to figure out what is missing first...

If only I had re-installed days ago...the servers being down must of annoyed alot of package managers and devs including yourself!

:(

Re: best way to upgrade from ubuntu studio to kxstudio

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:16 pm
by slipstream5
glad to hear that, thanks!

:)

Re: best way to upgrade from ubuntu studio to kxstudio

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:16 pm
by slipstream5
hello again,

so far I'm missing Ardour 4 and a few other things from Claudia launcher...trying to figure out where to install them from.

UPDATE: ok so looks like http://sourceforge.net/projects/kxstudi ... DEBs/repo/ is still working! Got Ardour4 saved and working with Claudia!

Cheers! :D

Re: best way to upgrade from ubuntu studio to kxstudio

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 9:27 am
by thetotalchaos
I have just updated my previous comment to point to the new actual web address, for the KXStudio repos wiki