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Kontakt on Linux using Wine?
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:02 am
by mike4711
Hi,
Has anyone managed to run Kontakt, for example version 5, on Linux with Wine?
If not version 5, then what about older versions?
And what about the full version vs. the player?
/Mike
Re: Kontakt on Linux using Wine?
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:07 am
by stanlea
I've tried (last version from the 4.x series), and it works but with a loooooooot of xruns. There's a demo, so you can try by yourself. Like everything with wine, it may work for some, not for others.
Re: Kontakt on Linux using Wine?
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:01 am
by mike4711
stanlea wrote:I've tried (last version from the 4.x series), and it works but with a loooooooot of xruns. There's a demo, so you can try by yourself. Like everything with wine, it may work for some, not for others.
Thanks for the info.
/Mike
Re: Kontakt on Linux using Wine?
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:24 am
by iliverez
It works ok, but you have to:
* go to options and disable multiprocessor support. This makes a huge difference.
* minimize kontakt window when not adjusting things on the UI
For the best results, use AVLinux (at least for me it is the most reliable/best performing audio production system in the Linux audio world). If using a USB audio interface, give it a go with the older kernel 3.6.7. On an i5 laptop with 4G RAM it works fine at latencies about 6ms-8ms, maybe less.
Finally,taking memory usage into consideration, take care to use only what is really required. If your system starts using swap memory you will get lots of xruns.
Re: Kontakt on Linux using Wine?
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:05 pm
by allinitis
I managed to get Kontakt running in Carla, both stand-alone and in ardour. I put together a little example here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ_2PaBmCCU
It's using kxstudio elements on a lowlatency kernel, ubuntu 16.04.
Software involved....
Carla, Cadence, Catia, Wine, wineasio, Ardour.
Re: Kontakt on Linux using Wine?
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:11 pm
by Aksjodgoi
allinitis wrote:I managed to get Kontakt running in Carla, both stand-alone and in ardour.
Could you make a full tutorial how to configure and launch kontakt? That would be awesome.
Re: Kontakt on Linux using Wine?
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:31 pm
by allinitis
Aksjodgoi wrote:allinitis wrote:I managed to get Kontakt running in Carla, both stand-alone and in ardour.
Could you make a full tutorial how to configure and launch kontakt? That would be awesome.
Hello
When you say launch and configure kontakt, you don't mean the installation of everything involved, just how to scan for the plugin in carla and launch it? Just to clarify... since my system is somewhat delicately balanced.
Re: Kontakt on Linux using Wine?
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:14 pm
by Aksjodgoi
allinitis wrote:Aksjodgoi wrote:allinitis wrote:I managed to get Kontakt running in Carla, both stand-alone and in ardour.
Could you make a full tutorial how to configure and launch kontakt? That would be awesome.
Hello
When you say launch and configure kontakt, you don't mean the installation of everything involved, just how to scan for the plugin in carla and launch it? Just to clarify... since my system is somewhat delicately balanced.
Before posting I had no idea how to use carla but now I get it.
I've installed Kontakt but nothing happens when I launch it. Terminal says:
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err:module:import_dll Library MSVCP140.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files\\Native Instruments\\Kontakt 5\\Kontakt 5.exe") not found
err:module:import_dll Library CONCRT140.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files\\Native Instruments\\Kontakt 5\\Kontakt 5.exe") not found
err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\\Program Files\\Native Instruments\\Kontakt 5\\Kontakt 5.exe" failed, status c0000135
So, which dependencies did you installed for wine to run kontakt?
Maybe is this something additional I need to install?
I don't usually use wine but when I do... Shit happens
EDIT: vc_redist.x64 and vc_redist.x86 are already installed.
Re: Kontakt on Linux using Wine?
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:35 pm
by allinitis
I've installed Kontakt but nothing happens when I launch it. Terminal says:
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err:module:import_dll Library MSVCP140.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files\\Native Instruments\\Kontakt 5\\Kontakt 5.exe") not found
err:module:import_dll Library CONCRT140.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files\\Native Instruments\\Kontakt 5\\Kontakt 5.exe") not found
err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\\Program Files\\Native Instruments\\Kontakt 5\\Kontakt 5.exe" failed, status c0000135
So, which dependencies did you installed for wine to run kontakt?
Maybe is this something additional I need to install?
I don't usually use wine but when I do... Shit happens
Ironically I don't think I did anything special in wine for kontakt. But since I tweaked the system quite a lot before to get photoshop running and so on, maybe something there has helped it. In that process, using winetricks, I did install vcrun2005, vcrun2008 and vcrun2010, gdiplus, and gdiplus_winxp.
In your case, I would try winetricks as above and if it still gives the error, https://www.dll-files.com/ Here, you can find MSVCP140 and CONCRT140 and place them in /home/yourusername/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32
Otherwise, I added the KX studio repos -
http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Repositories
Installed Carla, Cadence, Catia plus loads of plugins.
I installed wineasio - important to be able to use it properly (I
think I got it from the top post here:
https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2029348)
and then registered it - Terminal command: "wine64 regsvr32 wineasio.dll"
What versions of ubuntu, wine and kontakt do you have? Also is it 64bit?
Hope some of my ramblings help!
Re: Kontakt on Linux using Wine?
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 11:02 am
by Aksjodgoi
allinitis wrote:
What versions of ubuntu, wine and kontakt do you have? Also is it 64bit?
Hope some of my ramblings help!
Linux Mint 18. Also everything is 64bit. Kernel same as yours.
Wine - 1.8, I also wonder if 1.9.x should help.
And Kontakt 5 Player -> legally downloaded.
Kxstudio repos and many plugins.
Also Cadence, Carla, Catia.
Did you install kontakt direcly using wine or via playonlinux?
Re: Kontakt on Linux using Wine?
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 11:13 am
by allinitis
Aksjodgoi wrote:allinitis wrote:
What versions of ubuntu, wine and kontakt do you have? Also is it 64bit?
Hope some of my ramblings help!
Linux Mint 18. Also everything is 64bit. Kernel same as yours.
Wine - 1.8, I also wonder if 1.9.x should help.
And Kontakt 5 Player -> legally downloaded.
Kxstudio repos and many plugins.
Also Cadence, Carla, Catia.
Did you install kontakt direcly using wine or via playonlinux?
I installed directly on wine and strangely enough, I'm running version 1.62. Not sure that makes much of a difference.
Did you do winetricks and install DLLs... vcrun2005, vcrun2008 and vcrun2010, gdiplus, and gdiplus_winxp? I have a feeling it's missing those dependencies.
Re: Kontakt on Linux using Wine?
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 12:40 pm
by Aksjodgoi
allinitis wrote:
Did you do winetricks and install DLLs... vcrun2005, vcrun2008 and vcrun2010, gdiplus, and gdiplus_winxp? I have a feeling it's missing those dependencies.
That was my bad. Everything was set to 32 bit system while trying to launch 64bit app.
Re: Kontakt on Linux using Wine?
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 12:42 pm
by allinitis
Aksjodgoi wrote:allinitis wrote:
Did you do winetricks and install DLLs... vcrun2005, vcrun2008 and vcrun2010, gdiplus, and gdiplus_winxp? I have a feeling it's missing those dependencies.
That was my bad. Everything was set to 32 bit system while trying to launch 64bit app.
Yay! So it's all working now? By the way... nice tracks on soundcloud
Re: Kontakt on Linux using Wine?
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 9:28 am
by briandc
@allinitis: I liked your video demo. I usually don't use Compiz video effects on my machines that I use for audio stuff; but it's nice to see a video with some effects included. It adds a nice touch!
brian
Re: Kontakt on Linux using Wine?
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:39 pm
by allinitis
briandc wrote:@allinitis: I liked your video demo. I usually don't use Compiz video effects on my machines that I use for audio stuff; but it's nice to see a video with some effects included. It adds a nice touch!
brian
Thank you. Always was so attracted to the whole compiz environment. Doesn't seem to have a huge impact on my cpu either so until something breaks, I will keep it