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One of the problems I find with all the free jazz (pizzicato, plucked acoustic) basses is that there's always that really badly played note range you just can't work around nor fix. I recently came across a set of raw waves and decided to see what I could make of them. The original waves were in really bad shape (on some waves you can actually hear a trumpet player practicing in another room), but after a lot of work, I came up with an instrument that turned out well, and doesn't have that "bad area" in its range. It's not perfect -- if the notes had been held longer, I could have made better loops. But it may be the best free option for jazz bass.

http://www.bandshed.net/sounds/sfz/jazzbass.zip

Some of them are in a different format and sound like mixed with white noise with my linuxsampler. So they are unusable.

Most are RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 16 bit, stereo 44100 Hz
They work well.
Some are RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, stereo 44100 Hz.
They don't.

The aliens' list:
hm@regen:/tmp/JazzBass$ file * | grep -v PCM
A1.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, stereo 44100 Hz
Ab2.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, stereo 44100 Hz
Ab3.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, stereo 44100 Hz
B1.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, stereo 44100 Hz
B2.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, stereo 44100 Hz
G1.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, stereo 44100 Hz
Gb1.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, stereo 44100 Hz

Same issue here. Some samples are 16 bit and working fine, some are 32bit float and are rendered by Carla with a lot of white noise but when opened in audacity or whatever they play just fine !?
I tried to convert them back to 16bit, and then it works fine again but I'm loosing the loop points in the process... By the way j_e_f_f_g what is the audio editor that you use to manage the loop points ?

I thought I finalized all the 32 float samples to 16-bit, but I must have missed some. I'll have to repackage those.

I use Adobe Audition for most processing. Nothing else works as well. Looping is done with Waveosaur as it's brutally efficient for that.

All serious audio production work is done on Windows. I can't be bothered to deal with the piece-meal hack that it is linux audio.

fixed

j_e_f_f_g wrote:Hopefully, this fixes it:
http://wikisend.com/download/277968/jazzbass.zip

Yes, thank you.

The sfz or the wavs can be improved furter. Some notes are late. For example the note in G1.wav doesn't begin at the beginning and I don't see any offset in the sfz-file. It's at least 17 msecs late. That can destroy a groove.

Tightened the timing on the low notes. Picky.

j_e_f_f_g wrote:Tightened the timing on the low notes. Picky.
http://wikisend.com/download/295762/jazzbass.zip

Great!

Holger
(chief executing managing sound font examining vice president)

j_e_f_f_g wrote:I thought I finalized all the 32 float samples to 16-bit, but I must have missed some. I'll have to repackage those.

I use Adobe Audition for most processing. Nothing else works as well. Looping is done with Waveosaur as it's brutally efficient for that.

All serious audio production work is done on Windows. I can't be bothered to deal with the piece-meal hack that it is linux audio.

Kinda agree,

I tried really hard to use Audacity for sample editing but I always go back to Steinberg WaveLab 3 which is almost 10 years old and runs as good in Wine as it ever did in Windows, as far as the rest of the process IMHO Ardour and Polyphone are more than adequate tools, as always, a matter of opinion. Soundfile editors have a long way to go...

PS. The 'Holger-approved' jazzbass is uploaded..

Just curious, is mhwaveedit even a contender for this kind of sample editing? (I haven't done this sort of thing, but I know its an alternative to audacity).

Tight and right ! Feels almost perfect now
There is just some ringing or saturation on A2 on the right channel, I don't know if you can fix it easily though.

DoosC wrote:saturation on A2 on the right channel

OMG, your ears are good. There's one wave where there's a very slight, brief clipping on the right channel, and A2.wav is it. The clipping lasts for only 6 cycles, and it's just slightly on the peak. I thought "No one is going to notice. There's way more clipping on most mixes."

I did some manual redrawing of the waveform, because I'm curious if you can hear any difference.

All right now !
At first I thought there was still the same issue but I then noticed there was an A2.wav outside the JazzBass directory, I added it in there (replacing the other A2.wav) and then the problem was solved.
The attack sounds sometimes too bright but I think that should not be fixed at the sfz level but rather by eq'ing or using the right IR while mixing.
Depending on the use case the bright attack might actually be useful so you should probably keep it this way.
All in all, a very good sfz once again ! Keep up

Offtopic: I like your "When Râ Meets Anzâr" ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta-viD4N1Uk )

offtopic2:

as linux audio editor which can edit sample loops, I could only find ocenaudio,
- but when polyphone is not enough ... renoise has a very fine, detailed audio editor.