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Thanks danboid, that's useful information. I guess it must be a bug then. Bit of a shame, I converted pretty much my whole sample library to flac recently so I can't do a lot when opening up Tracktion now

And yes I was complaining about DAW's in general, not specifically on linux. I started on PC. Trained Professionally on Mac, and now am a linux user. So yes, I tried a lot of different DAW's on a lot of different OS's(I trained on Mac in the OS 9 days!) I am very glad that a DAW with your needs has been offered on linux. You are correct, we don't have a huge variety of choice here. As far as stability of Ardour, I think it's amusing that it works perfectly with Reason 5 via wineasio, but Pro Tools crashed quite often for me when ReWired to Reason. I guess it's just differences in people's use of the program, but I don't have most of the problems people say they have with Ardour. I run session for 6-12 hours and usually never see a crash. I usually have dozens of audio tracks an busses and a bunch of MIDI tracks. I think one of the biggest things I've noticed in stability is loading synths as outboard gear and not into Ardour itself. In any event, everyone has their difference of creation style and I'm glad to see people getting features they want on an OS they want!

i2productions wrote:As far as stability of Ardour, I think it's amusing that it works perfectly with Reason 5 via wineasio, but Pro Tools crashed quite often for me when ReWired to Reason.

Huh? There is no (official) Ardour for Windows. Maybe you are talking about Mixbus?

EDIT

Oh sorry! wineasio. My damaged brain replaced it with asio4all

I'm talking about in Linux. Hence why I'm amazed that Reason is more stable under wine/wineasio in linux than it is on windows!

I'm sure most of you who are bothered know about this by now, but for those who missed it:

5.3.9
- Fix for track mute status not restoring
- Fix for MIDI note length entry box
- Fix for copy and pasting MIDI notes
- Added sampler support to Presets

5.3.8
- Fixed a problem with aux sends not sending the first channels of multi-out plugins
- Fixed a possible click when rendering audio files near the start of the timeline

5.3.7
- Fixed problem with loop points not being sent to VST plugins
- Fixed a crash when changing certain edit clip options with no source set
- Fixed a potential crash when rendering Racks with specific channel configurations
- Fixed Ogg + Flac files not working in Linux

A wine VST -> native VST bridge plugin has been created for use with Bitwig. It supposedly works with Renoise too but I've not got anything to work with it under Tracktion yet:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... bcfcd8aa1a

Here's my post from that thread:

"I've just built this and tried it with Tracktion 5.3.9 under Ubuntu 12.04.4 x64 with wine 1.6.2 without any real success.

Neither the latest beta nor the latest stable release of synth1, 32 or 64bit bridges pass the VST scanner of Tracktion - it just says 'Deactivated after failing to initialize correctly'. I got the same results with both the 32 and 64-bit bridges of Crystal.

I think there is some hope though as farbrausch's v2 (32bit) did scan OK and T5 let me insert it into a track but the plugin window was just black - no UI or controls visible at all.

That's all I've tried so far. Great to hear its working under Bitwig anyway!"

https://github.com/abique/vst-bridge/tree/xembed

I've just updated the bitwig/VST-bridge KVR thread to note that I've now got the latest 32 bit build of Synth1 running under Ubuntu (KXStudio) Tracktion!

Thanks for posting about that danboid, I will definitely have to check that out. I've never really wanted to delve in to wine VST but it could really expand Tracktion.

Hi
Been playing around with Tracktion 5.3.9 in KX 12.04. Looking great.
I just noticed that CPU usage goes up (without any playback taking place) as soon as I put plugins on an audio track. It's as if the track was being played and processed.
Is that normal behaviour?

I don't know about T5 specifically, but typically plugins are running all the time its just silence going through them. So if you have a reverb with a long tail and pause the playback, you'll still hear the tail of the echo even though there is nothing going into the input.

ssj71 wrote:I don't know about T5 specifically, but typically plugins are running all the time its just silence going through them..

I wasn't aware of that, but you're totally right. Just tested it with Ardour and got the same behaviour.
I've been mainly working with Reaper (under both Win and WINE) and there I always had the impression the CPU was kind of idle with playback stopped (but it's not, as I just checked).
Anyway, sorry for going off topic.

T5 has definitely caught my attention.

PatS wrote:

ssj71 wrote:I don't know about T5 specifically, but typically plugins are running all the time its just silence going through them..

I wasn't aware of that, but you're totally right. Just tested it with Ardour and got the same behaviour.
I've been mainly working with Reaper (under both Win and WINE) and there I always had the impression the CPU was kind of idle with playback stopped (but it's not, as I just checked).
Anyway, sorry for going off topic.

T5 has definitely caught my attention.

I dont know if you can do this in T5 but in ardour in the settings there is an option to silence plugins when transport is stopped

bazsound wrote: I dont know if you can do this in T5 but in ardour in the settings there is an option to silence plugins when transport is stopped

Ah, good to know. Makes perfect sense to have such an option, I think. Reaper has it too. Couldn't find it in T5 though.

I know we have a few anti-JACKers on these forums and they'd be interested to know that it seems you can use T5 with ALSA alone, or so it seems.

I need JACK for other apps hence its easier for me to just use JACK so I don't think I'll be using ALSA mode but I'm interested to hear if anyone has tried T5 using just ALSA?

@danboid: You might be interested to know that the linuxDSP Workstation Plug-ins Bundle has just been updated, this provides a work-around for a bug in Tracktion for linux which was stopping the VST plugin controls working correctly. Controls should now function as intended.
Technical information for anyone interested - Tracktion seems to forward X-events to the plugin window with an incorrect Timestamp, which fouled up the double click detector (because, unlike other operating systems, there is no specific "double click" event from X11, it has to be timed by the individual client application) meaning that normal clicks on controls were falsely interpreted as double clicks, which caused the control to reset or stick to its default position.
Other plug-ins will be updated soon.

Free update for exisiting users at: http://www.linuxdsp.co.uk/download/lv2/download_wpp/