Move KXStudio to ArchLinux?

[ToddMWorth]

I love Arch. Totally. But I run ubuntu. Why? Because even though I'm a very experienced linux professional, the install process is too long and annoying.

So I voted yes, because, like it has done with ubuntu studio and it's terrible audio implementation, I anticipate that an arch based KX would fix the installer issues with arch.... and before I even get a chance to vote, falk has confirmed it.

Also, I believe ubuntu's time at the top is soon to end (and have been saying so for some time now).

[ToddMWorth]

You seem to be under the impression you need to reinstall Ubuntu twice a year. That's not the case: you can upgrade from one release to another.

You seem to be under the impression that doing this does not usually result in a machine that f***s up a lot.

I wish I had a dollar for every time I've seen this conversation:

User: I did an over-the-top operating system (windows, osx, linux, unix, you name it) upgrade, and now my PC does *insert weird thing here*
Tech Support: Go do a full proper upgrade and come back if it's still doing that
User: Never comes back

Anyone reading this; it's your PC, and others' opinions may differ, but my personal and professional opinion is; never over-the-top upgrade.

[wolftune]

Anyone reading this; it's your PC, and others' opinions may differ, but my personal and professional opinion is; never over-the-top upgrade.

For the record, I almost never did fresh installs of Mac OS when I upgraded in the past, and I never had issues. I've done more new installs with GNU/Linux (by the way, we really need to start including the GNU now, because Chrome OS and Android are totally different systems that are also Linux) because I've moved between distros and ISO releases. I surely won't be installing Chakra-KXStudio simply over-the-top of Ubuntu-KXStudio. I like the idea of focusing on LTS and otherwise rolling releases.

At any rate, I understand the cleanliness of fresh installs, but I don't accept the advice of "never over-the-top upgrade." There's lots of times when it goes perfectly fine.

[funkmuscle]

guys, we all have our flavour of distros and we're musicians. falk has created a solution with KXStudio for us. Now let's see if one day it can be available for all GNU..
Don't really care for Linux stuff port to Windows and Apple as they have enough of their own.

[tux99]

guys, we all have our flavour of distros and we're musicians. falk has created a solution with KXStudio for us. Now let's see if one day it can be available for all GNU..
Don't really care for Linux stuff port to Windows and Apple as they have enough of their own.

Well, the source code for all of falktx's apps is available and from what I saw he has documented the requirements and dependencies fairly well, so it shouldn't be too hard for interested packagers from various distros to package up his apps for other distros.

What's needed is for packagers from the various distros to be made aware of the KXstudio apps (and that's something every distro user can do by suggesting it on the forum or the mailing list of their distro) and then for some packager to find the apps interesting enough to do the work to package them up.

That said, the apps seem to all require Python 3.2 or newer which not every distro has yet, it would have been far easier to package them up if falktx had written them for Python 2.x which is still the most commonly available version of Python (or better in C/C++ as that's far more portable).

[funkmuscle]

yep tux99, that is it.. even if the Mac and Windows users want to use it, they have access as long as the Linux devs work on the apps for Linux only and sometimes lend a hand to the other platforms.

I just wanna see Linux in many studios and my hardware being available.. I wanna see Linux rock the music industry.

[luster]

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I just wanna see Linux in many studios and my hardware being available.. I wanna see Linux rock the music industry.

To that end, I thought to suggest that we have a KXStudio-specific area where recordings made using it could be showcased. It could be here in the lm forums; it could be hosted elsewhere. If the 'rules' for posting were simple and straightforward enough, administrative overhead could be made low. Of course, the main problem I see is that the beauty of KXStudio is that it is nearly transparent. So maybe that's not such a great idea after all...

It's just a stray thought...

[riffmastergeneral]

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[funkmuscle]

This move just has to happen , Canonical will drop more bombs , to me this is inevitable , the future of KX will be Arch based , its the only realistic and stable environment for it to exist in ..... anyone worried about the move to Arch just check out out what the team at Chakra have done with it then imagine the genius of falkTX getting hold of this thing ? its gonna be Awesome i really cant wait ... seriously exited .. like i said when i voted YES the sooner the better ........................

ArchBang is another beauty!!

[riffmastergeneral]

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[Capoeira]

Arch's leading in the survey is surprising. I thought most of the users use Ubuntu(based).
but 26 votes?

[wolftune]

Riffmaster: I'm not knowledgeable enough to agree with your support of Arch, but I'd like your take on what I said:

* Instead of Arch, why not start with Chakra itself, or ideally base the KXStudio ISO on Chakra but do support in a way to work with either Arch or Chakra or similar Arch-based?

* What about Mageia? It seems a contender for the way to go. (ROSA is similar, and anyway the whole OpenSUSE / RedHat world uses similar stuff, I don't know anything about this whole world)

I do agree about YES on leaving Ubuntu and the problems. On the other hand, I just spent time getting students to try KXStudio and they were all asking about how to play games and such. I just discovered playdeb http://playdeb.net/ and that's awesome because it is FLOSS and freeware focused and pretty robust (I am opposed to Steam and its proprietary DRM etc). Are there options like this for Arch/Chakra or Mageia? Ubuntu does do a good job of making an accessible environment with stuff like this.

It does seem to me, as a really ignorant just general impression, that OpenSUSE and Fedora are not the way to go. And so it seems to come down to Arch/Chakra or Mageia unless sticking with the Debian-based world (which does exist outside of Ubuntu, of course, but…).

Oh I dunno. My vague impression at this time: my favorite-seeming all-around option is Chakra, and Parabola looks as good or better than Trisquel for those wanting full FSF-freedom. If the move to Arch was done in a way to support Chakra and Archband and Parabola, then I definitely like it. If it's only Arch itself and not really flexible to these others, then I'm more skeptical.

[autostatic]

Arch's leading in the survey is surprising. I thought most of the users use Ubuntu(based).
but 26 votes?

I'm not surprised at all.

[wolftune]

Arch's leading in the survey is surprising. I thought most of the users use Ubuntu(based).
but 26 votes?

I've only really used Ubuntu-based systems. But I'm along for the move. I didn't vote for Arch because it is what I already use, I voted for the move because I appreciate the problems with Ubuntu's direction. I suspect there's others like me too.

[Capoeira]

ArchBang is another beauty!!

Wow just checked it out on the tube it does look nice , might light it up in Vbox later .................

and it seams, that installing it you got a "pure Arch" compatible system, diferent from CHakra!?!?