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Tunefish synth

Postby StudioDave » Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:00 pm

Greetings,

Seen this morning on KVR :

http://www.tunefish-synth.com/

Native Linux VST beta now available. I haven't tested it on anything yet.

Best,

dp

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Re: Tunefish synth

Postby falkTX » Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:44 pm

UI is a bit big, but looks nice.
There seems to be some UI issues after using it for a while (not updating the generator view), but otherwise all works perfect.

I love that deep bass... 8)

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Re: Tunefish synth

Postby sysrqer » Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:15 pm

This looks really nice, I love the UI and the way everything is right there and simple to find. Definitely will be downloading it and trying it, thanks.

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Re: Tunefish synth

Postby GraysonPeddie » Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:26 pm

Do any of you think that the songs in the Tunefish v3 Demosongs section sounded like 80s? It does to me and it sounded nice due to snare drum. Awakening sounds nice too. Ah, that bassline...

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Re: Tunefish synth

Postby sysrqer » Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:38 am

I can't make Qtractor recognise this. It loads up in Carla though.

Not sure I agree about the UI being big, looks about right to me. Perhaps could be shrunk a little bit but seems fine to me and fits on my 15 inch laptop ok.

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Re: Tunefish synth

Postby danboid » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:08 pm

Tunefish has loaded fine under qtractor for me under KX x64.
Are you new to Linux Audio? This manual explains how to install KXStudio, set up and use JACK, mimimize latency, lists the best Linux AV apps and much more all in a concise and easy to understand format.

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Re: Tunefish synth

Postby sysrqer » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:20 pm

Yeah I have it working now, for some reason qtractor doesn't like it being in ~/.vst but moved it to /usr/lib/vst and it's working fine.

I love this synth, I'm amazed at some of the sounds it can make and the fx are lovely.

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Re: Tunefish synth

Postby danboid » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:10 pm

I installed it in ~/.vst as they recommend and it works fine under qtractor here.
Are you new to Linux Audio? This manual explains how to install KXStudio, set up and use JACK, mimimize latency, lists the best Linux AV apps and much more all in a concise and easy to understand format.

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Re: Tunefish synth

Postby danboid » Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:12 pm

Looks like the source to tunefish is included in the zip of Enigma Studio's source:

http://www.braincontrol.org/enigma.php

Not sure about licensing yet.
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Re: Tunefish synth

Postby danboid » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:42 pm

I've just done some rough and ready benchmarking of TAL-Noizemaker VST vs Tunefish VST when hosting 4 instances of one or the other, each in its own MIDI track.

Noizemaker

1341212 MB RAM used, 2/3% CPU

Tunefish

1304440 MB RAM used, ~7% CPU

So it seems to consume a little less RAM but uses slightly over double the amount of CPU compared to what Noizemaker requires.

I can defintely see I'll be using Tunefish anyway as you can get some great sounds out of it. Its not often we get good open source synths so lets hope they choose a good license and make further improvements to it!
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Re: Tunefish synth

Postby stanlea » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:50 pm

The .cpp and .hpp files contains this line :

Copyright © 2003-2012 Brain Control, all rights reserved.

So I guess, they didn't ask themselves what was a good licensing.

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Re: Tunefish synth

Postby ssj71 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:21 pm

danboid wrote:I've just done some rough and ready benchmarking of TAL-Noizemaker VST vs Tunefish VST when hosting 4 instances of one or the other, each in its own MIDI track.

Noizemaker

1341212 MB RAM used, 2/3% CPU

Tunefish

1304440 MB RAM used, ~7% CPU

So it seems to consume a little less RAM but uses slightly over double the amount of CPU compared to what Noizemaker requires.

I can defintely see I'll be using Tunefish anyway as you can get some great sounds out of it. Its not often we get good open source synths so lets hope they choose a good license and make further improvements to it!


I've been told the best benchmarking is the DSP amount that is reported by Qjackctl. It could vary a lot depending on the effects too. I'd like to see the DSP "score." (for fun facts, IIUC its calculated by what percent of the period available to fill the buffer is taken up by the jack client.)
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Re: Tunefish synth

Postby danboid » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:56 pm

I spoke too soon regarding the source. I wrote to the author regarding the licenssing and he replied:

I did not release any source code so far. The code contained in turtles all the way down is an older windows-only version and yes, this is not released unter any open source license, this is just intended for people to check out how this 64k actually works inside :) I might open source tunefish at a later time.


I also asked about TF4 on ARM

An ARM port is not an issue, I had it already running on a Beagleboard with Cortex A8 processor, however the additive synthesis just takes too much processing power for it to run at acceptable speeds even with NEON optimizations. I am waiting for a paralella board right now to experiment with its 16 core cpu. That might do the trick. The reason behind that is I am building an actual hardware version of tf4 so I've been doing experimenting with ARM alot already ;)
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Re: Tunefish synth

Postby DanielD » Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:53 am

Carla can't find it, I've put it in /usr/lib/vst

There is already FooYC20.so there, and it is seen by Carla on refresh, but not Tunefish. Is there anything special to do besides unpacking the Tunefish archive in the directory ?

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Re: Tunefish synth

Postby falkTX » Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:58 am

DanielD wrote:Carla can't find it, I've put it in /usr/lib/vst

There is already FooYC20.so there, and it is seen by Carla on refresh, but not Tunefish. Is there anything special to do besides unpacking the Tunefish archive in the directory ?

Have you re-scan for VST plugins in Carla again?


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