find Rosegarden .rgd files for HW Device [banks, programs]

[wurlycat]

Hi All,
after installing kxstudio and replaced the sound card, I'm trying to configure Rosegarden to work in my system.
Reading guides, manuals and how-to I've seen that I can manage banks and programs for MIDI devices through a special menu.
You can load device definitions file with banks of a particular midi device and use all the programs available for your MIDI device even if it's a piece of hardware connected to the MIDI ports.
Scrolling through the list of files *.rgd present by default, I did not find those for my old devices Korg M1R EX and Roland SC-880.
Before I begin to create these files using the tables in the user manuals of the equipments, I was wondering where I can possibly look for these files.
Wasting time to do a job that someone has already done is not very useful for anyone .

[tux99]

As far as I know the rgd files included with Rosegarden are all that are available as users have been contributing them and the devs adding them to the Rosegarden source.

There is a script included in the Rosegarden source tarball that will convert Cakewalk INS files to Rosegarden RGD files, maybe that will help you as finding Cakewalk INS files for your synths shouldn't be too hard.

Here is the conversion script:
http://svn.code.sf.net/p/rosegarden/cod ... ins2rgd.pl
(I haven't used it so I have no idea how good the conversion is)

[wurlycat]

Here is the conversion script:
http://svn.code.sf.net/p/rosegarden/cod ... ins2rgd.pl
(I haven't used it so I have no idea how good the conversion is)

Thank you tux.
I've found some files and I've open them with an editor.
It seems that they contain the definitions I was looking for.
I'm not very experienced in using scripts.
I followed the instructions after copying the script and *. Ins files in my home directory:
# Usage:
# ins2rgd.pl original.ins | gzip > converted.rgd

as a result I obtain an error as like as if the script were not in home directory

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miciogatto@gattoso:~$  ins2rgd.pl korg.ins | gzip > korg.rgd
bash: korg.rgd: Permission denied
ins2rgd.pl: command not found

lacking of some library ?
matter of permissions ?

Maybe it's dumbest question in the world, but I seriously have problems with it

P.S.
Perl should be already installed since I ran successfully the script realTimeConfigQuickScan.pl that I've found in the wiki of linuxmusicians.

[wurlycat]

Good news,
I've tried the following syntax for the command line:

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perl ins2rgd.pl original.ins | gzip > converted.rgd

and it seems working if all the files are in my home directory.

The fles .ins that I had found previously were not going well, they were too generic. I found one specific for the sc-880 and after conversion it seems that the tones correspond to those on the unit.
I need to make some checks before sharing the file rgd for Rosegarden.
Don't know how it works with Patch,Performance Effects etc. but I hope that experimenting with the various menus and commands things will become clearer.

Still looking for Korg M1R EX files

[tux99]

./ins2rgd.pl original.ins | gzip > converted.rgd

would have worked too, the './' means: look for the script in the current directory.

With regards to the Korg M1EX, isn't it identical to the Korg M1 but only with a larger ROM (which makes no difference for the rgd file)?

Or does the M1EX have additional programs and combis compared to the standard M1?

[wurlycat]

With regards to the Korg M1EX, isn't it identical to the Korg M1 but only with a larger ROM (which makes no difference for the rgd file)?

Or does the M1EX have additional programs and combis compared to the standard M1?

M1R EX includes an additional 4MB block of waveforms in ROM.
The M1R EX is a M1R with double the internal Multisound ROM (8 meg vs. 4 meg). I was said that this is the same Multisound ROM found in the T-Series.

[tux99]

M1R EX includes an additional 4MB block of waveforms in ROM.
The M1R EX is a M1R with double the internal Multisound ROM (8 meg vs. 4 meg). I was said that this is the same Multisound ROM found in the T-Series.

Yes I know that, but Rosegarden doesn't care about waveforms, it only cares about programs/patches and combis (and drumkits).
Does the M1R EX have additional programs and combis compared to the M1?

[wurlycat]

Yes I know that, but Rosegarden doesn't care about waveforms, it only cares about programs/patches and combis (and drumkits).
Does the M1R EX have additional programs and combis compared to the M1?

Sorry,
I reread it again and now I get it
From what I have read in a forum:
Korg M1/Rack = 4 MB di sample, 100 progamm + 100 combi + Card PCM e Data
Korg M1EX/Rack= 8 MB di sample, 100 progamm + 100 combi
and I can change the programs loading different sounds from the internal samples.
I tried it and indeed there are some good sounds.
I can save these programs using sysex on HD via MIDI dump. The same for combis.
Don't know if Rosegarden manages sysex.
On ebay I've found also couples of external cards (PCM + combi) to add new sounds but I don't know if it's worth buying some.
When I eventually have some money I'd rather buy an harmonizer for the voice.

[tux99]

Korg M1/Rack = 4 MB di sample, 100 progamm + 100 combi + Card PCM e Data
Korg M1EX/Rack= 8 MB di sample, 100 progamm + 100 combi

As long as the program and combi names are the same you can just use the rgd file for the Korg M1 then.