guitar amp/cab sims with impulse response loading
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Re: guitar amp/cab sims with impulse response loading
hey brummer, I was looking at some hardware out there for guitar like preamps and pedals. Most of them use to come with amp/cab sims. Now, because of impulse response, they have removed the hardware amp/cab sims. I even emailed one pedel maker and this was his reply:
Hi!
Thank you!
Most of the time i'm involved in custom projects. The pedals are for
sale, but currently i'm changing all the line for a newer versions (tap
tempo modulation pedals, FirestarterII etc).
What do you mean exactly by "built for direct recording"? All my pedals
are designed to work with line levels, there are no impedance issues,
the modulation pedals could be used with any line level signal (like
plugged into the mixers insert point). But i'm no longer using the
hardware cabinet simultors, just because the software solutions are
giving much better results, like f.e convolving plugins and speaker
impulse responses. This sound sample was recorded with a plain pedal
(FireStarterII) just plugged into the soundcards line input:
http://www.herby.kielce.pl/~piter/hexen ... 0IRmix.mp3
I think for such a simple hardware setup the sound is quite good and
convincing.
So, if you are looking for a pedal that will sound good without plugging
it into a cranked amp, but instead recorded directly at bedroom levels -
then yes! The FireStarterII would be the best choice.
Regarding the modulation pedals. The regular versions of RadarPhase,
AquaTrem will be equipped with MIDI interface allowing to controll most
of the parameters directly from the DAW application or any midi controller.
Regards!
Piotr
I've been asking some of the vst developers who give their software freely if they would port or open source it and they all say no..... Dude, please don't port your guitarix to Windows. I'm just a little bitter that most Linux developers make their software availible for Windows as if we need to bow to the Master, yet the Windows developers don't. They say they don't have time yet the Linux developers have the time to do both...
I just really love Linux the way we have control over our OS that's why I really wish I knew how to write apps.
How do you learn??
Hi!
Thank you!
Most of the time i'm involved in custom projects. The pedals are for
sale, but currently i'm changing all the line for a newer versions (tap
tempo modulation pedals, FirestarterII etc).
What do you mean exactly by "built for direct recording"? All my pedals
are designed to work with line levels, there are no impedance issues,
the modulation pedals could be used with any line level signal (like
plugged into the mixers insert point). But i'm no longer using the
hardware cabinet simultors, just because the software solutions are
giving much better results, like f.e convolving plugins and speaker
impulse responses. This sound sample was recorded with a plain pedal
(FireStarterII) just plugged into the soundcards line input:
http://www.herby.kielce.pl/~piter/hexen ... 0IRmix.mp3
I think for such a simple hardware setup the sound is quite good and
convincing.
So, if you are looking for a pedal that will sound good without plugging
it into a cranked amp, but instead recorded directly at bedroom levels -
then yes! The FireStarterII would be the best choice.
Regarding the modulation pedals. The regular versions of RadarPhase,
AquaTrem will be equipped with MIDI interface allowing to controll most
of the parameters directly from the DAW application or any midi controller.
Regards!
Piotr
I've been asking some of the vst developers who give their software freely if they would port or open source it and they all say no..... Dude, please don't port your guitarix to Windows. I'm just a little bitter that most Linux developers make their software availible for Windows as if we need to bow to the Master, yet the Windows developers don't. They say they don't have time yet the Linux developers have the time to do both...
I just really love Linux the way we have control over our OS that's why I really wish I knew how to write apps.
How do you learn??
Re: guitar amp/cab sims with impulse response loading
Hifunkmuscle wrote:I just really love Linux the way we have control over our OS that's why I really wish I knew how to write apps.
How do you learn??
I learn it with faust. http://faust.grame.fr/
It is a nice DSP compiler and wrapper. You can find a lot information about Dsp in the net.
So I build the prototyp from a application.
Afterwards I work on the Code to fit it to my need's. faust produce a .cpp file (C++) that is the base to work on. If you interessted in learning how to write audio apps for linux, I could provide more Information and Howtows to faust maby in a other section of the forum.
I dont have windows installed . But if somebody port it, I see no prob. .funkmuscle wrote:please don't port your guitarix to Windows
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Re: guitar amp/cab sims with impulse response loading
Yeah, let someone esle that uses windows do the work for windows....
Yeah, I would really love to learn how to write apps.
maybe you can start a howto on this forum..
Yeah, I would really love to learn how to write apps.
maybe you can start a howto on this forum..
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Re: guitar amp/cab sims with impulse response loading
hey brummer, I got dssi_convolve working on Rosegarden. Maybe you can add dssi support to guitarix so it can load impulse response files with dssi_convolve.
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Re: guitar amp/cab sims with impulse response loading
Hey brummer, I found an open source vst convolver at http://convolver.sourceforge.net.
dunno if that may help. Wondering if it now can be ported to Linux since being open source.
dunno if that may help. Wondering if it now can be ported to Linux since being open source.
Re: guitar amp/cab sims with impulse response loading
Hi funkmuscle
I am on a bussines journy, I will look at that when I home again, it sound interessting.
And yes I will add dssi/ladspa/lv2 support to guitarix, but it looks like it need more time I think when I startet.
greats brummer
I am on a bussines journy, I will look at that when I home again, it sound interessting.
And yes I will add dssi/ladspa/lv2 support to guitarix, but it looks like it need more time I think when I startet.
greats brummer
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Could you give a link to that article please?funkmuscle wrote: even a dude at LAD wrote an excellent article on getting great guitar tone from caps and it sounded amazing for blues and jazz but nothing sounds close to the impulse response.
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a electret condesator?brummer wrote: I use a small electret condesator micro from sony witch I hold between my fingers.
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so that's why I posted it in the how-to also. That same dude said when he has more time, he'll be writing more great articles like that one... That should be good.studio32 wrote:funkmuscle wrote: even a dude at LAD wrote an excellent article on getting great guitar tone from caps and it sounded amazing for blues and jazz but nothing sounds close to the impulse response.
.studio32 wrote:Could you give a link to that article please?
Thanx again bro
Re: guitar amp/cab sims with impulse response loading
hey funkmuskle
So I have decided, jconv will be the IR convulution engine I will use with guitarix. I have start right now to include support for it.
I have contacted Fons Adriaensen to talk about that and it is allright for him. Also he told me that he will write a GUI frontend for jconv as well.
I have look at (dssi-convolve) libconvolve and see the (optional) depend on libdsp witch is unmaintaint, so I dont wont to use it. The vst-convolver is a real BIG blown app with a lot of (unneeded) dependends, I dont think that someone exept the author will port it to linux. And with jconv, there is no need to do it. I will add a widget for the jconv settings and add them to the preset settings from guitarix, witch I have allready change, you can save then the (unlimited) presets by name and change the preset afterwards, so it will be simple to use/create/save different jconv sets with guitarix.
geatrs brummer
So I have decided, jconv will be the IR convulution engine I will use with guitarix. I have start right now to include support for it.
I have contacted Fons Adriaensen to talk about that and it is allright for him. Also he told me that he will write a GUI frontend for jconv as well.
I have look at (dssi-convolve) libconvolve and see the (optional) depend on libdsp witch is unmaintaint, so I dont wont to use it. The vst-convolver is a real BIG blown app with a lot of (unneeded) dependends, I dont think that someone exept the author will port it to linux. And with jconv, there is no need to do it. I will add a widget for the jconv settings and add them to the preset settings from guitarix, witch I have allready change, you can save then the (unlimited) presets by name and change the preset afterwards, so it will be simple to use/create/save different jconv sets with guitarix.
geatrs brummer
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Re: guitar amp/cab sims with impulse response loading
great news brummer. Is this available now in guitarix? Also, ask Fons Adriaensen what the delay and offset settings do. That's a question on the net and I haven't found the answer yet.
Re: guitar amp/cab sims with impulse response loading
no, isn't ready, I just have start to include it. It will take some day's to make it work clean,save and simple. But in my brain, it is ready.funkmuscle wrote:Is this available now in guitarix?