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Re: Omnisphere & yabridge in 2025: Experiences welcome!

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Largos wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:05 am

Some people on here are interested in politics, we're not allowed to talk about it because it's not the right place for it. If yabridge has it's own online community then it makes more sense for people using it to be there.

There is also dedicated online community for Ardour, should all Ardour related discussion to be forwarded there. Specially, Ardour can be run on other operating systems than Linux. On the other hand, yabridge runs only in Linux.

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tavasti wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:56 am
Largos wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:05 am

Some people on here are interested in politics, we're not allowed to talk about it because it's not the right place for it. If yabridge has it's own online community then it makes more sense for people using it to be there.

There is also dedicated online community for Ardour, should all Ardour related discussion to be forwarded there. Specially, Ardour can be run on other operating systems than Linux. On the other hand, yabridge runs only in Linux.

People who provide the software are the best placed to provide support for it. If you have trouble running Ardour, then it would depend on where you got your copy who is best to ask for help.

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@Largos
Some people here are interested in politics - yes!
Let us all hope that there not just some people but that all people here are interested in politics.
I hope I do not have to explain, why.
We do not have to talk about politics here, right.
We should not talk about Windows here - this is a Linux forum.
We should also not talk about Linux on a Windows forum, neither.
Everything and every one is "politcal" - matter of definition, maybe.

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assembler wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:09 am

@Largos
Some people here are interested in politics - yes!
Let us all hope that there not just some people but that all people here are interested in politics.
I hope I do not have to explain, why.
We do not have to talk about politics here, right.
We should not talk about Windows here - this is a Linux forum.
We should also not talk about Linux on a Windows forum, neither.
Everything and every one is "politcal" - matter of definition, maybe.

Nobody is talking about Windows. People are talking about running Windows plugins on Linux. Tools like WINE and yabridge allow this. Why does this idea of running Windows plugins through a compatibility layer bother people so much? (They are still running Linux at the end of the day) I am genuinely curious.

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jmantra623 wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 8:55 pm
assembler wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:09 am

@Largos
Some people here are interested in politics - yes!
Let us all hope that there not just some people but that all people here are interested in politics.
I hope I do not have to explain, why.
We do not have to talk about politics here, right.
We should not talk about Windows here - this is a Linux forum.
We should also not talk about Linux on a Windows forum, neither.
Everything and every one is "politcal" - matter of definition, maybe.

Nobody is talking about Windows. People are talking about running Windows plugins on Linux. Tools like WINE and yabridge allow this. Why does this idea of running Windows plugins through a compatibility layer bother people so much? (They are still running Linux at the end of the day) I am genuinely curious.

I agree. I think it bothers people because they have a very black and white idea of what Linux is and should be. Another common gripe around here is people who think that proprietary software for Linux is an abomination. It's all shades of grey to me.

Personally, yes there is a specific board for these topics. Conversations on this subject should go there. I also think though that the tone of people pointing this out is often unnecessarily hostile for what is usually a simple mistake by a well meaning person. If people who behave this way are so hung up on forum rules they should note that there is also a rule about speaking civil to one another.

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jmantra623 wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 8:55 pm

Why does this idea of running Windows plugins through a compatibility layer bother people so much? (They are still running Linux at the end of the day) I am genuinely curious.

I think most of people are bothered by people posting in the "wrong" sections, then sure, some are bothered by the hundreds of posts of people asking for help about running software that is not supposed to run on Linux, but as long they are posted in their relevant forum section I didn't see particular negative reactions, beside a few cases.

The funny thing is that this "rule" is not even mentioned in the Forum Posting Guidelines. It is either an obvious unwritten rule of how forums work, or is not considered an important rule at all, I'll leave at your interpretation.

Personally I think using Linux has no intrinsic "good" value at all, if the rest, or at least most, of your apps are not following the same philosophy, for others is not a concern at all, I just accept things as they are, we are all different.

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Sorry, I am seeing it totally different.
Yes, if some one by mistake posts something about windows here , it is no problem for me.
Also just mentioning, that this is the wrong place is ok for me.
These mistakes are happening here very often.
Then, when get asked about why they are posting it not in the right section, some one else jumps up and claims that asking questions is now being hostile.
This is totally crank.
Some one asks questions and then people are claiming, the person is hostile.
I have read the lines now 5 times, I can not see anything hostile in it.
When you watch how people are trying define reality by their own values, you can maybe try to solve that problem first, because it is the most profound one.

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jmantra623 wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 8:55 pm
assembler wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:09 am

@Largos
Some people here are interested in politics - yes!
Let us all hope that there not just some people but that all people here are interested in politics.
I hope I do not have to explain, why.
We do not have to talk about politics here, right.
We should not talk about Windows here - this is a Linux forum.
We should also not talk about Linux on a Windows forum, neither.
Everything and every one is "politcal" - matter of definition, maybe.

Nobody is talking about Windows. People are talking about running Windows plugins on Linux. Tools like WINE and yabridge allow this. Why does this idea of running Windows plugins through a compatibility layer bother people so much? (They are still running Linux at the end of the day) I am genuinely curious.

This is not a WINE or yabridge support forum, there is very limited help people can give here. I'll give you an example, I made a thread about running Parawave's Rapid synth on Wine some years ago. All the info is out of date and largely worthless, it doesn't work for me now. It may work for some other distro, it may not. If there is some issue with yabridge, the yabridge dev is not here, he's presumably on the discord you posted. There is no point posting how to run queries for software to people who have equally no idea as the poster. That's not something specific to wine/yabridge either.

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Is all right, the only exception is the yabridge's dev has an account here, but haven't seen much activity lately. Going for the official channels is always better then hoping somebody would chime in a forum.

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Largos wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 12:40 pm

This is not a WINE or yabridge support forum, there is very limited help people can give here. I'll give you an example, I made a thread about running Parawave's Rapid synth on Wine some years ago. All the info is out of date and largely worthless, it doesn't work for me now. It may work for some other distro, it may not. If there is some issue with yabridge, the yabridge dev is not here, he's presumably on the discord you posted. There is no point posting how to run queries for software to people who have equally no idea as the poster. That's not something specific to wine/yabridge either.

And this is not Linux support forum, because Linus is not here. And not Ardour support forum, because Paul is not here. And not jack support forum, faltx is not anymore here. And this is not pipewire support forum because Wim is not here. And list goes on.

Are you trying to say that alsa-scarlet-gui, Muse, Drumgizmo and few other tools whos author is active here are only valid topics to discuss here?

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tavasti wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:29 pm
Largos wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 12:40 pm

This is not a WINE or yabridge support forum, there is very limited help people can give here. I'll give you an example, I made a thread about running Parawave's Rapid synth on Wine some years ago. All the info is out of date and largely worthless, it doesn't work for me now. It may work for some other distro, it may not. If there is some issue with yabridge, the yabridge dev is not here, he's presumably on the discord you posted. There is no point posting how to run queries for software to people who have equally no idea as the poster. That's not something specific to wine/yabridge either.

And this is not Linux support forum, because Linus is not here. And not Ardour support forum, because Paul is not here. And not jack support forum, faltx is not anymore here. And this is not pipewire support forum because Wim is not here. And list goes on.

Are you trying to say that alsa-scarlet-gui, Muse, Drumgizmo and few other tools whos author is active here are only valid topics to discuss here?

MusE is an anomaly because they have their own forum here. Overall though, this is not a support forum. Open source projects generally use github or gitlab for support. Projects like LSP, where sadko will fix reported bugs by the next version. People want to infer people are closed minded because we say this is better than using some software where you can't even run it natively on the OS of your choice and the devs couldn't give a damn. Omnisphere costs $500, you would pay that and then ask glowrak guy to help you run it?

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Overall though, this is not a support forum.

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Largos wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:56 pm

Omnisphere costs $500, you would pay that and then ask glowrak guy to help you run it?

:lol: :wink: As an aside, before I buy software, I do some basic research, try demo versions if available, study video/audio examples I can find. Then I do some valuation based on how, and how often I might use it, and see if I can find a price that matches my opinion of the product, most often, waiting for a bargain sale. (My next purchase will likely be a Boss Katana:Go )

Another factor is the ability to transfer a license, should there be one, by gift or sale. In that aspect, Omnisphere would not be on my short list of potential purchases, because there is a $50 transfer fee, and one must apply in writing, requesting permission to obtain a transfer, AND hopefully be approved. (They say it is because it's based on expensive samples). So I went to Sweetwater to get familiar with Omni, and it seems to be a stellar value based on the wide range of capabilities and content, assuming one would have a mac/win setup, or risk trying to get it working in linux. Yabridge can sometimes be side-stepped if needed, by running the windows Reaper version in a wine setup that includes a working wineasio installed. (yet another topic :wink: )
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jmantra623 wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 10:46 pm
asbak wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 1:56 pm

1) This is a Linux Audio website, not a Windows Audio website.
2) Why are you spamming the Linux section with your Windows software issues?
3) Why didn't you post your question in the non-Linux audio section?
4) If you want Omnisphere running smooth, RUN IT ON WINDOWS.

  1. Why are you being so hostile to the OP?
  2. Linux is a Kernel, not a religion, calm the F down.
  3. Instead of jumping down the OP's throat, why don't you suggest some Linux native alternatives?

Here's a suggestion for you

Install Windows 11 or buy a Mac, run your Windows and / or Mac plugins on there and stop being a pita on a Linux audio forum.

Your Windows / Mac software and plugins will run more reliably and your snowflake life will be in a safer space.

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