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What is happening to schism tracker?

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i should have started this topic earlier about this program. to talk further about it besides my latest dissatisfaction.

a new release was made on february 2. i never tried the "20241226" release because i didn't have a system available to use it. required higher "glibc" than any system i could get into. but i installed linux mint 22.1 "xia" a few days ago. which is good enough. and tried this latest release. now it requires jack server enabled. on my computer i have to run qjackctl first. then this program. this should be allowed disabled. so it runs like october 2024 release. the last one i could use on debian "bookworm" base.

the "run.sh" script doesn't work. fundamentally it does nothing about the problem finding the "utf-8" library it requires. also look at what is written in this file:

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#!/bin/sh
# script to run schism with included libs on linux
# shouldn't™ require bash or any other crap like that.

SCRIPTPATH="$(cd -- "$(dirname "$0")" >/dev/null 2>&1 ; pwd -P)"
env LD_LIBRARY_PATH="$SCRIPTPATH" "$SCRIPTPATH/schismtracker" "$@"

apparently an individual became involved in this program. who wasn't around in 2023 or earlier. more used to coding for windows. responsible for this arrogant rambling. which is also an obvious goof that was tested only on his system.

people have asked for soundfont support. personally i would have requested customizable keystroke shortcuts. processed from "rc-type" file or "ini" file. because some of us are on computers which do not have numeric keypad. also support loop points imported from wave file. somebody requested a lua scripting host. which seems now to be abandoned.

i don't know. this is a good program. but it's ugly. i cannot recommended it to anybody anymore. unless they are on arch linux or fedora linux base. it's too bad.

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I really don't know what your problem is here. I run Mint 22.1 too, downloaded and extracted
https://github.com/schismtracker/schism ... -linux.zip

In the extracted directory ran

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LD_PRELOAD=./libFLAC.so.8:./libogg.so.0:./libutf8proc.so.2.3.2 ./schismtracker

And it works just fine. It's even got a Audio Driver and Device selection screen:

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clear2ooo wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:17 pm

apparently an individual became involved in this program. who wasn't around in 2023 or earlier. more used to coding for windows. responsible for this arrogant rambling. which is also an obvious goof that was tested only on his system.

Speaking of arrogant ramblings...

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clear2ooo wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:17 pm

... besides my latest dissatisfaction...

There is a hard way and an easy way to make music in linux. The easy way involves making music
with established stable tools, the hard way is to get bogged down in scripts and things that require such knowledge.
I doubt many win/mac users who make music on a regular basis, have ever run or edited a script. You won't find
scripts for sale at Sweetwater, Guitar Center, or the local luthier's shop. Simple as that.

(for those with time, inclination, need, or love for the capabilities scripting provides, making things better is always a good thing!
For example, some Kontakt users get deep into it's scripting possibilities 8) )

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Impostor wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 7:41 pm

I really don't know what your problem is here. I run Mint 22.1 too, downloaded and extracted
https://github.com/schismtracker/schism ... -linux.zip

In the extracted directory ran

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LD_PRELOAD=./libFLAC.so.8:./libogg.so.0:./libutf8proc.so.2.3.2 ./schismtracker

And it works just fine. It's even got a Audio Driver and Device selection screen:eeeehhh.png

Yep. On my aging Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (long term support) system too. Before, this application would not start because of the glibc issue the OP complained about. Strangely enough, I can't choose JackAudio in the Audio Driver section, whereas the OP says it requires Jack? I can choose pure ALSA and PulseAudio. FYI: I don't have PipeWire (yet).

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Linuxmusician01 wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 12:16 pm

Strangely enough, I can't choose JackAudio in the Audio Driver section, whereas the OP says it requires Jack?

Afaik the only way to get Jack support in Schism Tracker is to build SDL2 with Jack support. For some reason, the SDL2 package in Ubuntu/Mint is not so compiled.

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By the way, somebody requested configurable keybinds?
https://github.com/schismtracker/schismtracker/pull/470

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Agenda anyone?

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Impostor wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 7:44 pm
clear2ooo wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:17 pm

apparently an individual became involved in this program. who wasn't around in 2023 or earlier. more used to coding for windows. responsible for this arrogant rambling. which is also an obvious goof that was tested only on his system.

Speaking of arrogant ramblings...

i was speaking about what was the comment in the "run.sh" shell script. the one i reposted in my first post here.

i lost internet for two weeks so i couldn't reply here until now. your method worked after all. i thought it had the word "library" in uppercase somewhere in the variable name.

so before i arrived on this site. did schism tracker interest you? (edit: you = whoever could read this post)

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clear2ooo wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:00 am
Impostor wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 7:44 pm
clear2ooo wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:17 pm

apparently an individual became involved in this program. who wasn't around in 2023 or earlier. more used to coding for windows. responsible for this arrogant rambling. which is also an obvious goof that was tested only on his system.

Speaking of arrogant ramblings...

i was speaking about what was the comment in the "run.sh" shell script. the one i reposted in my first post here.

That code actually should work, mostly. It's just adding the directory containing the needed custom libraries to LD_LIBRARY_PATH. But for that to correctly work you need to rename one of the three libs (remove .3.2 from the end of the name).

clear2ooo wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:00 am

so before i arrived on this site. did schism tracker interest you?

Well, of course. I started out in the nineties with Impulse Tracker. IT stopped working for me on win98 or XP, can't remember which, and never felt at home with other trackers I've tried in the years since. Until I discovered Schism Tracker around 2018. Only when I stumbled on Schism Tracker did I start putting more time into my waning music making hobby again. I've since moved to MusE (not a tracker) but I keep fooling around with Schism Tracker too.

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