Opinion? Yamaha MG12XU vs. Behringer UMC404HD as USB audio interface

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Opinion? Yamaha MG12XU vs. Behringer UMC404HD as USB audio interface

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My main computer failed. I replaced my main computer.

I have used USB audio interfaces.

The current USB audio interface I'm using is a Behringer UMC404HD which seems to be a little low in output volume but otherwise appears to be operating just fine.

Further, my old mixer died. I got a Yamaha MG12XU with a USB 2 interface

I am about to test the Yamaha MG12XU vs. the Behringer U-phoria MC404HD.

I am looking for any opinion on what I can expect and which of the two will work better as USB interface.

Thanks.

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Re: Opinion? Yamaha MG12XU vs. Behringer UMC404HD as USB audio interface

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Spanner wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 10:39 pm

I am about to test the Yamaha MG12XU vs. the Behringer U-phoria MC404HD.

I am looking for any opinion on what I can expect and which of the two will work better as USB interface.

There's nothing to expect with the Behringer, it's already widely used and known to work.

Since you're testing the MG12XU the expectation is that you will report your experiences and findings about it to whoever maintains Linux audio device lists & databases.

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Re: Opinion? Yamaha MG12XU vs. Behringer UMC404HD as USB audio interface

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If you own both devices, it seems you would be the one to tell us how the two differ and compare. If you are able to setup and test controllable conditions, you have the means to provide this community information on those devices' performance much better than someone who owns only one of them.

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Re: Opinion? Yamaha MG12XU vs. Behringer UMC404HD as USB audio interface

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The usual metric for audio interface performance is latency. I measured the latency of a Behringer 404HD:

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 373.710 frames      7.786 ms total roundtrip latency
	extra loopback latency: 119 frames
	use 59 for the backend arguments -I and -O

I would think both interfaces, the Yamaha and the Behringer, use the snd-usb-audio kernel module, so the performance will be similar. The 'extra loopback latency' is coming from the hardware, and this is where there will be a difference.

Making a prediction -- I think they'll be within a few samples of each other.

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Re: Opinion? Yamaha MG12XU vs. Behringer UMC404HD as USB audio interface

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I am collecting data

( 64 / 192000 ) * 3 = 1 ? no
( 128 / 192000 ) * 3 = 2 trying again ?? problems w/xruns and sound?? So, no
( 256 / 192000 ) * 3 = 4 i'm getting some xruns here just running at idle and load is about 3-4% at idle
( 512 / 192000 ) * 3 = 8 ?? ok, at 512 I'm seeing no xruns for: 4 whole days under many different playback scenarios. Cadence reports latency to be 2.7 ms

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Re: Opinion? Yamaha MG12XU vs. Behringer UMC404HD as USB audio interface

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Is there a particular reason you are using a 192 kHz sample rate instead of 48 kHz? Setting the sample rate to 192 kHz is significantly more CPU intensive and results in larger files, i.e. more disk space being consumed. A setting of 48 kHz would likely enable you to use a lower buffer size and thereby reduce overall latency. Perhaps you are doing some specialized sound synthesis that benefits from a higher sampling rate, but if you are just recording and playing back instruments, there is no real benefit to using a sampling rate higher than 48 kHz. This is actually true of 44.1 kHz, but since 48 kHz has became the standard for audio coupled with video, using 48 kHz has become common while recording audio to avoid resampling it later, especially if there are no plans to release the material on compact disc.

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Re: Opinion? Yamaha MG12XU vs. Behringer UMC404HD as USB audio interface

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That sample rate is just where I am resting at at the moment.

I had fuller responses crafted but it seems that I keep getting knocked out of my account while posting and lose them.

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Re: Opinion? Yamaha MG12XU vs. Behringer UMC404HD as USB audio interface

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Testing, not resting.

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