Used to use Calf Fluid Synth on a bus (in Ardour, BTW) and route up to 16 MIDI tracks to one channel each. Now I wanted to use the sfz format and found the player sfizz. Am I right in supposing that I need to start the plugin once for every track? If it were possible to use the Bus method it'd be consuming less of my machine's power, is what I'm thinking ...
one instance of sfizz per track?
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Re: one instance of sfizz per track?
Can you add 16 instances in a bus?
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Re: one instance of sfizz per track?
Not sure I understand what you mean ... I had only one instance of FluidSynth running and several MIDI tracks sending their information, one per channel. Mabe never 16 but certainly six or eight.
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Re: one instance of sfizz per track?
ClausRogge wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:05 pmNot sure I understand what you mean ... I had only one instance of FluidSynth running and several MIDI tracks sending their information, one per channel. Mabe never 16 but certainly six or eight.
What I mean is put 16 instances of sfizz on the bus, each instance receives on a separate channel, and route your individual MIDI tracks to the bus as is in your previous workflow. You still have 16 instances of the plugin, but you get to use the bus like you did before.
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Re: one instance of sfizz per track?
ClausRogge wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 8:57 amUsed to use Calf Fluid Synth on a bus (in Ardour, BTW) and route up to 16 MIDI tracks to one channel each. Now I wanted to use the sfz format and found the player sfizz. Am I right in supposing that I need to start the plugin once for every track?
That is the way most of the plugins work.
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Re: one instance of sfizz per track?
d.healey wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:01 pmWhat I mean is put 16 instances of sfizz on the bus, each instance receives on a separate channel, and route your individual MIDI tracks to the bus as is in your previous workflow. You still have 16 instances of the plugin, but you get to use the bus like you did before.
Ah ok now I understand. Is sfizz so small that it's no problem having it running multiple times at once? Just wondering. So I won't worry and just do it like that. Thank you and also tavasti for taking your time to sort out my little problem.
Still not sure how I add a "Solved" to this kind of thing
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Re: one instance of sfizz per track?
The OP is talking about multi-timbrality similar to Yoshimi. The OP would indeed need 16 separate Sfizz instances to do this.
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Re: one instance of sfizz per track?
The No Budget Instrument collection uses shared libraries to achieve the smallest possible footprint for this collection of sampled instruments (it effectively has one instance of the sample playing engine regardless of how many plugins you load), while giving you the versatility of each instrument having its own stereo output. You may want to investigate these plugins if you're using a machine with limited specs.
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Re: one instance of sfizz per track?
I*ll have a look at that, thank you. If it takes sfz format I'll give it a try
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Re: one instance of sfizz per track?
The Linuxsampler plugin has a version with 32 outputs.
Ps.:the samples must be loaded by an external program (see Qsampler).
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Re: one instance of sfizz per track?
Depending on what shared libs, this can be a problem. Specially with Ardour/Mixbus which have their own version of shared libs, which can be much different from system libs. And if your plugin uses those, there is high risk to get trouble.
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Re: one instance of sfizz per track?
tavasti wrote:Depending on what shared libs, this can be a problem.
No, they're all shared libs that I created. I don't use someone else's sample-playing engine (ie, Linuxsampler). I wrote my own.
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Re: one instance of sfizz per track?
ClausRogge wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:06 amI*ll have a look at that, thank you. If it takes sfz format I'll give it a try
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I’m sorry, I wasn’t clear. Yoshimi is multitimbral. It is not an SFZ player.
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Re: one instance of sfizz per track?
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Is sfizz so small that it's no problem having it running multiple times at once? Just wondering.
The developers certainly believe that it is so (see https://github.com/sfztools/sfizz/issues/1047, which covers patch banks as well as MIDI channels, and https://github.com/sfztools/sfizz/issues/1048, which is more general).