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Can you read notation

Yes, fluently

5
22%

Somewhat, slowly and painfully

14
61%

No, not at all

4
17%
 
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Can you read notation?

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I started yesterday course 'Studio production 2' and looks like it is something else than I expected. Whole session was about how to write chords to bass threble cleff, with traditional notation. And sounded like it will be same stuff also following sessions. Rationale was 'when you write new music, you can pass notation to musicians who will play it'. I started to suspect that nearly none of my friends who are potential to participate to my productions could not read notation properly. I can read it if have to, but it is really slow.

So wanted to ask here also, how you fellow musicians, can you read notation?

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Post by Loki Harfagr »

Well, your poll is missing at least one choice
"Used to fluently read orchestral 8 parts but somehow eons later I'm slowly and painfully reading slow paced parts but only those rare days I can find where the reading glasses where lost last time" ;)

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Loki Harfagr wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:36 pm

Well, your poll is missing at least one choice
"Used to fluently read orchestral 8 parts but somehow eons later I'm slowly and painfully reading slow paced parts but only those rare days I can find where the reading glasses where lost last time" ;)

That sounds like perfect explanation for that 'Somewhat' option. Or maybe that still is that fluent, because if you are really slow, pace of music does not matter. On any tempo, 2 notes/minute, 2 minutes for 7-chord is not ok.

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Reminds me of an old joke: "How do you get a guitar player to turn down the volume from his amp? Put notes in front of him!"

FWIW, I read fairly fluently, in terms of understanding, but don't transfer sight-read melody to the guitar on the fly all that well: there are too many arrangement choices, including whether I'm supposed to play in the octave as written or down an octave, plus which of two or three choices on strings and fingerings to use. I can play sight-read melody on the piano with some effort, but can't play written out chords or left-hand bass parts while doing so (versus playing chords from a lead chart).

I'm by no means a studio session player, but a lot of what I've observed delivered to them in pop / rock / country sessions is "charts" (sometimes with melody and chords, like a fakebook lead sheet, sometimes with just chord symbols or numbers) rather than scored-out "parts;" -- the expertise they bring in interpreting such charts to serve the song is why they get paid the big bucks. Orchestral players, on the other hand, are demons for sight reading, but tend not to contribute as much to the on-the-fly arranging.

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Post by Gps »

Let me put it like this.

With a cheat sheet present it takes me around 30 sec per note to get a note into LMMS.

I have to, with every note over and over again go like:
K, this is c then that must be ..... counting the steps.

Because of this though, I am proud I did this in LMMS from sheetmusic. (I had a mate print it out)
With help from the LMMS forum.

Now if this is your first track from sheet music, then don't pick this one. Listen to other people (unlike me) warning you about this not being a simple track to put in a daw,

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(Original, James Last Biscaya)

This makes me appreciate modern dance music even more. :wink: only need 1 A4.

One of my biggest issues , is were to put a note from sheet music in LMMS, timing wise.
Once tried, the cure A forest. This bloody piece starts with only 1 note, before the second bar. (bass guitar)
After failing for about an hour to understand the sheet music, I hooked up my midi controller.
With my sense of rhythm I hit a note on the controller. This was my face, when looking at the piano roll: :shock:
Owww, that was what the sheetmusic was trying to tell me. The position of that first note.
That piece of sheet music also had 3 notes at the end. (can't recall the name for this)

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I think there are a lot of steps between 'painful' and 'fluent'. Reading is not painful for me, but I know guys that are fluent. Stick anything in front of them at pretty much any tempo and it comes out right. I'm not there, but I think I'm nearer fluent than painful.

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Hi,

I don't sight read, and since I play guitars in alternate tunings much of the time I often don't even know what actual chords I'm playing, I recognize them by pitch, position and pattern but not by the actual notes. I'm neither proud or ashamed of it, I get by OK but it's probably not ideal..

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GMaq wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 3:34 pm

... and since I play guitars in alternate tunings much of the time ...

What kind of tunings? I have one guitar tuned to AEAEAE, another in DADADD, rest having something more normal :-)

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