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Uneducated

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:42 pm
by jonetsu
A smooth piece w/o percussion, in two parts. The first part has only several Repro-5 synths (native Linux) whereas the second part is based on piano (pianoteq, Linux) with u-he Linux/native synths ACE (bass), Diva, Dark Zebra and Bazille as atmospheres.

This piece was made 'off the grid', giving it a kind of natural breathing. 'Off the grid' means composed, played and recorded without any bpm ticking. It's a soft piece dedicated to the freedom inside.

https://soundcloud.com/nominal6/uneducated

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Re: Uneducated

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:38 pm
by milo
This is a really nice piece. Good balance of sounds, interesting synth tones, and nice melodies. Going "off the grid" -- can you really do that with electronic instruments? -- gives it a really gentle feel. Like camping in the mountains, and realizing how nice it is to be away from the 60 Hz buzz of electricity which is all around us all of the time.

Re: Uneducated

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:59 pm
by jonetsu
milo wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:38 pm
Like camping in the mountains, and realizing how nice it is to be away from the 60 Hz buzz of electricity which is all around us all of the time.
You've pinned it exactly.

As for using synths w/o bpm ticking, eg. w/o observing the 'grid' is simple as playing a keyboard. There are no sequences, no arps in there. It's all played. So the piano track is played and the rest is added 'naturally' with the piano track as reference. The DAW as a (cassette) tape recorder.

I was tempted, once all played, to make it fit into the 'grid' by adjusting the notes although I found that the atmosphere as is was so beautiful as it was that I resisted that temptation. I only slightly adjusted the timing of some notes. That's because the player is not as good as he thinks :)

Re: Uneducated

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:30 pm
by GMaq
Hi jonetsu!

Nice pensive piece! Very evocative of not being encumbered indeed and a beautiful blend of sounds and pads. I particularly like the combo of the vocal type pad and the deep bass underneath, they layer together nicely and the piano in the later section also gave a nice impression of free space..

As far as off the grid, I rarely use a grid or even record to a click (luxury of having a good drummer) but of course it serves it's purpose in some musical styles... I think we vastly underestimate the value of tempo fluctuation as a dramatic device to convey emotion, those infinitely varying milliseconds of "human-timing" are just as useful as the microtones in a guitar string bend or a violin vibrato to say what we want to say authentically..

This is simply a well put together piece and the fact it was on or off grid really had no bearing on my enjoyment of it... Thanks for sharing! Nice to see you post again!

Re: Uneducated

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:34 am
by jonetsu
GMaq wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:30 pm
I think we vastly underestimate the value of tempo fluctuation as a dramatic device to convey emotion, those infinitely varying milliseconds of "human-timing" are just as useful as the microtones in a guitar string bend or a violin vibrato to say what we want to say authentically..
I totally agree. There's much more to it than the 'grid' so to speak, in every sense of it.

I'll be moving next month. I thought, maybe I can drop by to say hi before leaving. I can bring a couple of Guiness. More in pm later.

Cheers.

Re: Uneducated

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:25 pm
by GMaq
jonetsu wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:34 am
GMaq wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:30 pm
I think we vastly underestimate the value of tempo fluctuation as a dramatic device to convey emotion, those infinitely varying milliseconds of "human-timing" are just as useful as the microtones in a guitar string bend or a violin vibrato to say what we want to say authentically..
I totally agree. There's much more to it than the 'grid' so to speak, in every sense of it.

I'll be moving next month. I thought, maybe I can drop by to say hi before leaving. I can bring a couple of Guiness. More in pm later.

Cheers.
Oh? Cool, I'll keep an eye on my Inbox.. :)

Re: Uneducated

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:18 pm
by folderol
This is very nice indeed. Something for quiet reflection at the end of a long and difficult day.

Re: Uneducated

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:40 pm
by jonetsu
folderol wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:18 pm
This is very nice indeed. Something for quiet reflection at the end of a long and difficult day.
Something akin to that indeed.