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3 kind of dramatic / classical pieces

Postby tavasti » Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:30 pm

I have done 3 (or 2.5, one still partial) kind of classical music tracks. And I think all of them has same flaw: starting with powerful ostinado, and then I don't know how to continue them properly, and do something else.

https://audiu.net/projects/winter2spring
https://audiu.net/projects/darkdays
https://audiu.net/projects/harvester (partial)

I am open to suggestions how to make them better, or links to compositions which could be used as a guideline how to do something like this?
What I am considering now is change order of parts: start with slower passage, and but stronger later, but not sure will that work significantly better. Problem is also that parts have nothing common.
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Re: 3 kind of dramatic / classical pieces

Postby lilith » Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:23 pm

Just listened to the first one and that's really great! Concerning the structure why not starting at 0:59, bring the louder part of the beginning later and later again more silent? In the louder part you can add some timpani sounds to make it even more dramatic.

https://audiu.net/projects/winter2spring

I'm not really into classical music, but you might check out MAX RICHTER.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bb0k9HgQxc

Or for the more dramatic part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1-uzsfFjss


Same for the 3rd track, although I think it works already as it is. You could start at ~1:00 and bring the beginning later. In the beginning it sounds like it's a trash metal cover. Maybe something like this will also inspire you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfNw3ku3ddQ
https://soundcloud.com/lilith_93

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Re: 3 kind of dramatic / classical pieces

Postby j_e_f_f_g » Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:32 am

Here are 2 orchestral pieces I scored:

http://wikisend.com/download/284322/orchestra.zip

"DelloJoio" is an orchestral arrangement I made from a piano piece by Norman Dello Joio. "Hollywood" (Theme from a 1960's Hollywood Boxoffice Flop) is an original piece I wrote/arranged/recorded (performed by the No Budget Orchestra).

In addition to the audio recordings, I've included the MIDI files (ie, the actual orchestral scores).

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Re: 3 kind of dramatic / classical pieces

Postby tavasti » Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:00 pm

lilith wrote:Just listened to the first one and that's really great! Concerning the structure why not starting at 0:59, bring the louder part of the beginning later and later again more silent? In the louder part you can add some timpani sounds to make it even more dramatic.

Thanks for encouraging comments and advices! I'll listen pieces you listed, maybe they will provide me some idea where to continue.
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Re: 3 kind of dramatic / classical pieces

Postby tavasti » Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:11 pm

j_e_f_f_g wrote:"DelloJoio" is an orchestral arrangement I made from a piano piece by Norman Dello Joio. "Hollywood" (Theme from a 1960's Hollywood Boxoffice Flop) is an original piece I wrote/arranged/recorded (performed by the No Budget Orchestra).

Thanks. For me they do are not the feeling/mood I am looking for.
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Re: 3 kind of dramatic / classical pieces

Postby Michael Willis » Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:27 pm

These remind me of a piece composed by somebody I correspond with on another forum: https://soundcloud.com/iktorraus/the-summoning

I can tell that you are unsatisfied with the form that your compositions take. I can only encourage you to keep trying, if only to give me somebody around here that I can discuss orchestral arrangements with :)

Mattias Westlund has written some excellent articles about virtual orchestration. If you want to learn more about positioning your orchestra in a virtual space, read the whole series linked at the top of his articles page. I can also recommend Mixing and processing a virtual orchestra and Layering orchestral samples.

Edit: What samples are you using? I'm always on the lookout for good orchestral sounds.

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Re: 3 kind of dramatic / classical pieces

Postby tavasti » Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:21 pm

Michael Willis wrote:Edit: What samples are you using? I'm always on the lookout for good orchestral sounds.

Virtually Playing Orhestra. Those pieces are made with caustic, started on mobile phone / tablet, then some work done on linux also, running caustic with wine. Most likely they will end to Mixbus, in midi or audio just for final mixing.
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Re: 3 kind of dramatic / classical pieces

Postby folderol » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:41 pm

Website demands too many scripts - so not going there sorry.

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Re: 3 kind of dramatic / classical pieces

Postby tavasti » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:34 pm

folderol wrote:Website demands too many scripts - so not going there sorry.

Suggestion for places where sharing music would be ok also for heavily securoty minded? Sure I could share them on my own web server as mp3 or ogg files if that is ok?
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Re: 3 kind of dramatic / classical pieces

Postby folderol » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:53 pm

tavasti wrote:
folderol wrote:Website demands too many scripts - so not going there sorry.

Suggestion for places where sharing music would be ok also for heavily securoty minded? Sure I could share them on my own web server as mp3 or ogg files if that is ok?

I'm not sure what you mean by security, but the sad fact is that music is trivially easy to copy - if that's your concern.

Places I use are:
Soundcloud - very little scripting demanded.
Internet Archive - expect all music to be downloadable.
My own website - No scripting of any sort and I always make my work downloadable.

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Re: 3 kind of dramatic / classical pieces

Postby tavasti » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:49 pm

folderol wrote:
tavasti wrote:
folderol wrote:Website demands too many scripts - so not going there sorry.

Suggestion for places where sharing music would be ok also for heavily securoty minded? Sure I could share them on my own web server as mp3 or ogg files if that is ok?

I'm not sure what you mean by security, but the sad fact is that music is trivially easy to copy - if that's your concern.

I was meaning where I should share that you would not be complaining about scripts, assuming you don't want browser to run any scripts.

No, I'm not worried somebody stealing my music :-)
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Re: 3 kind of dramatic / classical pieces

Postby psyocean » Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:11 pm

Darth Vader said: "Yes, the side of darkness has received a supply of new souls...he-he-he" :mrgreen:
Though I have no passion for darkness, but the music is interesting! :)

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