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Hey hey, I participated in a remix competition. Last year saw the first ILSC (International Low-vision Song Contest). The german winner now opened up his song for a remix competition of his own. With hours to spare I managed to submit my version and now the competition is open for voting. I would be grateful if you had a listen and voted, preferrably for me, :) but any vote would count. In the end only 11 remixes/arrangements were sent in and it would be sad if all our efforts just got lost in empty space. Here are the youtube playlist and the voting siite:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... kn8v1xrkn_
Voting:
https://strawpoll.com/d8obcb3uo
Voting is open until Friday, I believe, you have more than one vote.
About my song: I used Midish and Nama for sequencing, arranging, recording, mixing and mastering. LinuxSampler for drums, basses, piano, Mellotron (strings and choir), harpsichord and guitar. Hammond sounds courtsey of setBfree and the two monophonic lead synth contributed by external hardware (Neutron and MiniBrute 2s).
Plugins: CAPS, TAP, Calf, Invada, Fons' plugins and SWH. Special metions: TAP chorus for its amazing transformation of the guitar and fretless bass, good, old Barry's Satan Maximizer for its sound shaping if used with subtlety and TAP TubeWarmth for its nice colouration.
Share and enjoy!
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Hi!

Great Remix! I did listen to a few just to be fair...lol. Very impressive workflow you have going on, I am also a card-carrying fan of Barry's Satan Maximizer it is a phenomenally useful Plugin in so many ways, can't mix without it! You get extra points for dealing with LinuxSampler in my books..

Voted, and best of luck! :D
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That is a great song and a great mix with really nice dynamics! Got my vote! Good luck!

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Thanks both of you @oscillator and Glenn.
@GMaq Do you have issues with LinuxSampler or is it just the setting up of mutiple channels? Perhaps I'm just lucky, but gladly I haven't had major issues with LS for years. Perhaps I'm just not taxing it, just going with the usual simple setups and not too many samples loaded in one session. -- I'm curious: where do you use Barry's Satan maximizer most? I sometimes put it on snares as a sound design tool. Rarely I even add it to other sounds to get a little more sustain and colouration. Seeing how powerful and open your mixes sound, I am eagre to learn from the master.
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jeanette_c wrote: Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:15 pm Thanks both of you @oscillator and Glenn.
@GMaq Do you have issues with LinuxSampler or is it just the setting up of mutiple channels? Perhaps I'm just lucky, but gladly I haven't had major issues with LS for years. Perhaps I'm just not taxing it, just going with the usual simple setups and not too many samples loaded in one session. -- I'm curious: where do you use Barry's Satan maximizer most? I sometimes put it on snares as a sound design tool. Rarely I even add it to other sounds to get a little more sustain and colouration. Seeing how powerful and open your mixes sound, I am eagre to learn from the master.
Hi Jeanette,

Meh... LinuxSampler is quite functional it's just very kludgy when used with a monolithic DAW hosts like Ardour where you are used to dropping instrument plugin on a MIDI track and just being ready to work without the plugin having to talk to an outside host application etc. etc.... Not an issue for you and your unique and quite effective workflow, so I digress and it doesn't matter..

As far as Barry's Satan Maximizer it would be easier to list where I don't use it...haha! It excels on all kinds of transient spike things as you've noted: snares. toms, bongos, congas, tambourines, shakers etc.. It really brings those types of things to life and on Bongos and Congas you can really bring the knee point down and make them really pop in a mix.. Secondly I like it on both acoustic and electric pianos, on acoustic pianos it really brings a punchiness and power to the sound and on Electric Wurlitzer and Rhodes style sounds it really accentuates that wonderful 'bark' when you play hard. Lastly I often will drop an instance of BSM on the Master bus after any EQ and pre-fader, at a low knee point (ie -3db max) and it applies a nice broadband punch to the whole mix, the only thing to watch is that it doesn't push the gain to over 0db before you go into a limiter.

I'm not a Master of anything but I've put in quite a few hours and mixes with good old BSM! :D
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Too late to vote, but I did give it a listen. It is nice arrangement with interesting changes and texture variations with the different lead instruments. Is it just me, or does it sound like the tempo is a little unstable in the intro?

I have never used Barry's Satan Maximizer, mostly because of its name. :twisted: haha! Isn't it just an aggressive compressor? What can it do that, for instance, x42 compressor can't?
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Hi @milo , thanks for the feedback. It was a fun competition and I am not unhappy with the result, even if I didn't make it among the lucky winners. :)
the tempo in the intro is not as much unstable as it is changing, ramping down from 140BPm - or there abouts - to 126BPM, the tempo of the original song.
I am not sure if Barry's Satan Maximizer can do anything that another good compressor can't. I think it was created with some leverty in mind. :) It just does what it does very simply with only two controls: a decay time between 2 and 30 samples long and a knee point in dB. If you find your point in the mix for it, it's one of those feel good plugins. It can, of course, do very extreme compression/distortion. With clever gating you might be able to use it for extreme drums, synth sounds or even guitars for that aggressive modern sound.
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@jeanette_c first, thanks for getting libre software in unusual places. Finalist for a contest! My congratulations :D

I got Supertramp-y vibes from your track. I think your arrangement is very good and those vocals are very difficult to work into a prog rock track, I think you did a really great job at it :D
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