IKM Custom Shop wine regression?

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TheYke
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IKM Custom Shop wine regression?

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hey folks,
i recently realized that my custom shop installation running through wine on manjaro linux quit working (it cannot access the server).
it ran fine on wine 4.21 stable and staging, but with wine 5.0rc2 it broke. can confirm that a downgrade to previous version solves the issue.
any ideas?
greets
yke

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Re: IKM Custom Shop wine regression?

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in google: ldd wine libraries

quite a few possibly releated reads.

I have a nice app, bought, installed and registered online, but then when you launch the app,
it claims it 'can't find any internet connection :roll:

My strategerie is to have different .wine folders for the (few) major commercial product lines,
and cease updating when they work. The frozen can then be surrounded by a collection
of trusted plugins/utilities, that never invoke any kind of update.

So in my case, the IK collection is on a different drive than the NI collection,
and I can experiment with wine 5x on another setup that's not important.

Recently I tried wine 5.x for a certain purpose, seemed OK, but later on
something failed to work properly. Being a backup-a-holic, there were older
wine-staging, .wine, and Documents folders nearby, so I renamed the wine'5 folders,
and copied over the old ones known to work, then after confirmation, of success,
I removed the wine5 folders, and will test again, later on

The past couple of years, commercial devs just can't sate themselves with probing
the minutia of our internet connections. A money trail is out there somewhere,
so coercion and bribery will pick up the scent, and tirelessly follow :lol:

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Re: IKM Custom Shop wine regression?

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thanks for your answer.
i'm quite new to linux and for the most part happy with it. So forgive my lack of knowledge; still learning.
just curious: as it is nothing crucial for the system, by bypassing the upgrade for wine I'm not likely to get in trouble with my system on a rolling release distro, am I?

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A lot of the breakages are caused by devs following orders,
and delivering account/license managers and products that auto-update,
without asking permission of the customer! Keeping backups of the system
wine folder, the /home/you/Document folder, and the /home/you/.wine folder
can be a safeguard.

It's unlikely that wine is part of any rolling release, as it is
rarely a default part of a new linux install, and distros that do have it installed,
like Studio 1337 and AVLinux, are typically not rolling releases.
And you are Captain of your computers. WineHQ are on their own
timetable, and making good progress. The Reaper linux forum
has some smart devs and users, some post here at times,
and is another good spot to find answers.

https://forum.cockos.com/forumdisplay.php?f=52

A good bet is to keep a well working audio setup as is,
have a second audio setup to test new things on,
and a third, updated for general use, and shiny things. A computer
recycler will have some used formatted drives, and new or used
usb cases. For around $60, you should be able to have the 2nd and 3rd rigs.
One of them could be installed on a drive large enough for backups,
for a little extra.

This could be a good week ahead to score win7-is-dead computers dumped
for taxbreaks at the big 2nd-hand stores, and part them out.
A bootable usb stick or cd with the inxi command will reveal
what's under the hood, ram, cpu, type of internal cards,
motherboard chipsets etc

There is a windows app call rufus, that lets you install
a linux distro that's a .iso file, to a usb stick, from whence you can test,
use, or install it. Other apps exist, but I've used it few times the past couple weeks,
and it works fine.

https://rufus.ie/

Cheers

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thanks a lot again for your nice recommendations!

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https://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopi ... 1&start=15

post near bottom of page at the link helped with getting
SampleTank going, renamed some .dlls provided by wine,
and copied over the real windows .dlls alongside them,
and listed them as over-rides in the winecfg libraries panel.
If you start your daw (reaper?) in a terminal,
look in your terminal output for mention of
libpng12, which in my case was missing but possibly needed.
Many distros come with libpng16 these days, but the older one
can be found and installed if needed.
Cheers

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glowrak guy wrote:https://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopi ... 1&start=15

post near bottom of page at the link helped with getting
SampleTank going, renamed some .dlls provided by wine,
and copied over the real windows .dlls alongside them,
and listed them as over-rides in the winecfg libraries panel.
If you start your daw (reaper?) in a terminal,
look in your terminal output for mention of
libpng12, which in my case was missing but possibly needed.
Many distros come with libpng16 these days, but the older one
can be found and installed if needed.
Cheers
tried the same thing with the Custom Shop (under wine 4.21 where it works flawlessly) and saw that qtsvg4.dll and qtxml4.dll were missing. copied them into my wine-folder. no complaints there since then.

funny: checked the terminal output when starting reaper and it complains that it couldn't find "reaper_sws64.so" for the sws extensions. however sws works fine on my system and i rebuilt it just to check. seems like the filename changed in the meantime: the file which has been built is called "reaper_sws-x86_64.so"?

EDIT: Just an update on this one for the information of others: just updated wine out of curiosity to the newest version by now (5.3-1) and Custom Shop + plugins seem to work again!

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