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Fathom $12 Friday july 27th 2018

Postby glowrak guy » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:30 pm

edit:

Fathom modular synth will be at V2.15 for another Friday sale,
$12 this time.

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=482501

https://www.fathomsynth.com/purchase/

Version 2.15 to be released 7-27-18
It's an easy to use and excellent sounding modular synth.
A mono version is always free.
Cheers
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Re: Fathom $11 Friday sale, 6-29-18/6-30-18

Postby tavasti » Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:54 pm

Tried Fathom Mono in Lmms, but what ever I click in it's gui, it will do nothing.

Edit: seems to be same problems with other vst's also...
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Re: Fathom $11 Friday sale, 6-29-18/6-30-18

Postby jonetsu » Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:46 pm

Some good sounds in there. Lots of effort put in there and it shows in the sounds. Not the fastest to load sounds but that's OK, Lots of tutorial videos that covers a lot of aspects. Nice user interface that works like a modular synth. Can't go wrong for $11.

tavasti: it works with wine-staging and linVST (in Bitwig, should work in Ardour/Mixbus also as it's always Bitwig who's more difficult and unstable)

This said, the synth would need some optimizations. In the UI responsiveness (not that bad but some sliders are jumping when dragged - use the mouse wheel) and the sound generation since it works at 30% CPU for pad sounds. 'Polar lights' pad sound takes between 45% and 51% CPU !

Still, for $11 there are nice sounds. I'd say bounce to audio when done with a track.

It could be interesting to see it evolve.

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Re: Fathom $11 Friday sale (try the free mono version first)

Postby glowrak guy » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:28 am

The developer is very helpful, even when bereft of sleep.
He is active in this topic:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 963bcd3c06

Helped me out with an issue by providing a working password
for the latest update's archive. Within minutes of mentioning
my issue. :D :shock: :D

I like how the modularity is presented, I'm pretty slow,
so this instrument is going to be a help.
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Re: Fathom $11 Friday sale (try the free mono version first)

Postby jonetsu » Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:19 pm

Again, it's a synth that has a lot going on for it. I have now included it in my arsenal, despite the mentioned shortcomings. They are not show-stoppers. Considering the quality of the sounds, I can live with that and bounce to audio when needed.

The user interface is very well made. I haven't started to explore sound creation, but just looking around it's impressive in the simplicity with which the details of sound creation are presented. And there can be many details. The presentation is light, not obstructed. modular, with nice large knobs and an animated display which makes it lively.

That synth deserves to be worked on and improved, made even better, Especially regarding CPU consumption. There's something popular synth makers are doing with polyphony that the Fathom author hasn't stumbled upon in his code yet. I have no clue, although I would bet that polyphony is not squarely about executing the same code multiple times, which would multiply drastically the use of CPU resources.

I'm looking forward to see where that synth will be 1 or 2 years from now.

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Re: Fathom $11 Friday sale, 6-29-18/6-30-18

Postby tavasti » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:39 pm

jonetsu wrote:tavasti: it works with wine-staging and linVST (in Bitwig, should work in Ardour/Mixbus also as it's always Bitwig who's more difficult and unstable)

Looks like ubuntu / kxstudio does not have linvst.
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Re: Fathom $11 Friday sale, 6-29-18/6-30-18

Postby jonetsu » Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:30 pm

tavasti wrote:Looks like ubuntu / kxstudio does not have linvst.


May very well be. And at the same time, do not take any wine package from the distro. Take wine-staging from the wine-staging web site. Compiling linvst is the best option IMHO. It uses the Steinberg SDK that you have to get. Let me know if you need more details, I have taken notes about this.

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Re: Fathom $11 Friday sale (try the free mono version first)

Postby glowrak guy » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:19 pm

linvst has a binary at their git site, it's always worked,
no complile/repo etc

gmac might have a recent deb if you ask

about Fathom gui speed, one of the three provided .dll versions is really fast.
The 3 versions are provided to work around various OS pratfalls,
but since reaper shows them all with the same name, a manual
process-of-elimination from the fathom folder will be needed.
Cheers

Clicking the Fathom logo upper-left of the gui,
shows the version info, in my case,
the fast version is the Fathom 2.12.0 Pro MT build

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Re: Fathom $11 Friday sale (try the free mono version first)

Postby jonetsu » Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:35 pm

Mine is 2.12.0 Pro MD 64. The slowness in the UI I've seen is actually only with the EQ sliders, as shown upper right below. Everything else is OK. The graphic curves have no problems, nor the knobs.

Another thing: it does not export VST parameters. Again, no show-stopper.

Cheers.

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Re: Fathom $11 Friday sale, 6-29-18/6-30-18

Postby tavasti » Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:11 am

jonetsu wrote:
tavasti wrote:Looks like ubuntu / kxstudio does not have linvst.


May very well be. And at the same time, do not take any wine package from the distro. Take wine-staging from the wine-staging web site. Compiling linvst is the best option IMHO. It uses the Steinberg SDK that you have to get. Let me know if you need more details, I have taken notes about this.

I have wine-stable, I'll try first with it.

Your notes might be usefull, maybe worth new topic?
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Re: Fathom $11 Friday sale (try the free mono version first)

Postby tavasti » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:39 pm

Built own lmms, and now got Fathom mono working. Great sounds!
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Re: Fathom $11 Friday sale, 6-29-18/6-30-18

Postby jonetsu » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:14 pm

tavasti wrote: Your notes might be usefull, maybe worth new topic?


It would perhaps even be better in the upcoming new forum section dedicated to running 'foreign' plugins.

To admins: How is this section coming ? Will we see it soon ?

If not, I'll create a thread in the plugins section.

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Re: Fathom $11 Friday sale, 6-29-18/6-30-18

Postby tavasti » Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:06 pm

jonetsu wrote:
tavasti wrote:Looks like ubuntu / kxstudio does not have linvst.


May very well be. And at the same time, do not take any wine package from the distro. Take wine-staging from the wine-staging web site. Compiling linvst is the best option IMHO. It uses the Steinberg SDK that you have to get. Let me know if you need more details, I have taken notes about this.

Got linvst built, tried both wine-stable and wine-staging, same results: with embedded-6432, only 64 bit VSTs are found with mixbus, and loading Fathom64 -> lin-vst-server will crash on seg fault.

Linvst readme is pretty awful :-o
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Re: Fathom $11 Friday sale, 6-29-18/6-30-18

Postby jonetsu » Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:39 pm

tavasti wrote: Got linvst built, tried both wine-stable and wine-staging, same results: with embedded-6432, only 64 bit VSTs are found with mixbus, and loading Fathom64 -> lin-vst-server will crash on seg fault. Linvst readme is pretty awful :-o


Well, I think I will start with a parody.

Strange ...

Doesn't happen here.

:) OK, now that's done, is there anything in the log file by any chance ? I never looked at running 32 bit plugins, hence all I run is 64 bit and I built linvst with the default Makefile. Eg. with the Steinberg SDK in ../VST_SDK and the linvst sources in /Share/src/LinVst-master:

Code: Select all

   
   cd ~/VST_SDK
   cp -R pluginterfaces/  /Share/src/LinVst-master

   cd /Share/src/LinVst-master
     make clean
     make
(root) make install


Maybe you could try a make clean/uninstall (or similar option) and try the default Makefile.

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Re: Fathom $11 Friday sale, 6-29-18/6-30-18

Postby tavasti » Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:45 pm

jonetsu wrote:
tavasti wrote: Got linvst built, tried both wine-stable and wine-staging, same results: with embedded-6432, only 64 bit VSTs are found with mixbus, and loading Fathom64 -> lin-vst-server will crash on seg fault. Linvst readme is pretty awful :-o


Maybe you could try a make clean/uninstall (or similar option) and try the default Makefile.


Same results. Do you have any library overrides in your wine?
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