Max size soundfonts in LMMS?

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Re: Max size soundfonts in LMMS?

Postby Michael Willis » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:25 pm

LinMusGuy wrote:Maybe then it's simpler to just buy a more recent second hand computer?

My music machine started out mostly as parts cobbled together from my brother's old gaming rig.

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Re: Max size soundfonts in LMMS?

Postby LinMusGuy » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:27 pm

I see, I had to do them one at a time. Now the last one gives:

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# dmidecode 2.12
SMBIOS 2.5 present.

Handle 0x0023, DMI type 16, 15 bytes
Physical Memory Array
   Location: System Board Or Motherboard
   Use: System Memory
   Error Correction Type: None
   Maximum Capacity: 2 GB
   Error Information Handle: Not Provided
   Number Of Devices: 2

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Re: Max size soundfonts in LMMS?

Postby merlyn » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:41 pm

That's it. This:

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   Maximum Capacity: 2 GB
   Error Information Handle: Not Provided
   Number Of Devices: 2

tells us the maximum capacity.
EDIT: Technically that is saying you can have two 1GB sticks. I used dmidecode when I added more memory to my machine. Although dmidecode tells me the maximum capacity is 8GB, I've got 11GB (4+4+2+1) and it's stable. So dmidecode is not reliable. In your machine another 1GB stick will definitely work. 2GB isn't much, so if you find another computer at a good price with 8GB, go for it.
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Re: Max size soundfonts in LMMS?

Postby LinMusGuy » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:51 pm

I think the best thing then is to look for two secondhand RAM cards of 2 Gb each. Than I can keep my old desktop computer for some years to come. Do those RAM cards always fit?

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Re: Max size soundfonts in LMMS?

Postby merlyn » Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:09 pm

OK well a 2GB desktop stick is about £3, so you could try adding it to the 1GB and if it works get another one.

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Re: Max size soundfonts in LMMS?

Postby LinMusGuy » Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:35 pm

Michael Willis wrote:
LinMusGuy wrote:Maybe then it's simpler to just buy a more recent second hand computer?

My music machine started out mostly as parts cobbled together from my brother's old gaming rig.


I also like second hand equipment. It's for fun, I don't need to keep up with the Joneses.

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Re: Max size soundfonts in LMMS?

Postby LinMusGuy » Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:45 pm

merlyn wrote:OK well a 2GB desktop stick is about £3, so you could try adding it to the 1GB and if it works get another one.


Good idea. Thanks for your help. I will let you all know what happens.

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Re: Max size soundfonts in LMMS?

Postby LinMusGuy » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:52 pm

I have bought another computer (for 14 euro :wink: ) with these specifications:

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  *-firmware             
       description: BIOS
       vendor: American Megatrends Inc.
       physical id: 0
       version: 0903
       date: 03/03/2008
       size: 64KiB
       capacity: 960KiB
       capabilities: isa pci pnp apm upgrade shadowing escd cdboot bootselect socketedrom edd int13floppy1200 int13floppy720 int13floppy2880 int5printscreen int9keyboard int14serial int17printer int10video acpi usb ls120boot zipboot biosbootspecification
  *-cache:0
       description: L1 cache
       physical id: 5
       slot: L1-Cache
       size: 64KiB
       capacity: 64KiB
       capabilities: internal write-back data
  *-cache:1
       description: L2 cache
       physical id: 6
       slot: L2-Cache
       size: 3MiB
       capacity: 3MiB
       capabilities: internal write-back instruction
  *-memory
       description: System Memory
       physical id: 32
       slot: Systeem- of moederbord
       size: 2GiB
     *-bank:0
          description: DIMM DDR2 Synchroon
          product: PartNum0
          vendor: Manufacturer0
          physical id: 0
          serial: SerNum0
          slot: DIMM_A1
          size: 2GiB
          width: 64 bits
     *-bank:1
          description: DIMMProject-Id-Version: lshwReport-Msgid-Bugs-To: FULL NAME <EMAIL@ADDRESS>POT-Creation-Date: 2009-10-08 14:02+0200PO-Revision-Date: 2013-01-22 19:06+0000Last-Translator: FULL NAME <EMAIL@ADDRESS>Language-Team: Dutch <nl@li.org>MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bitX-Launchpad-Export-Date: 2016-07-20 12:05+0000X-Generator: Launchpad (build 18147) [empty]
          product: PartNum1
          vendor: Manufacturer1
          physical id: 1
          serial: SerNum1
          slot: DIMM_A2
     *-bank:2
          description: DIMMProject-Id-Version: lshwReport-Msgid-Bugs-To: FULL NAME <EMAIL@ADDRESS>POT-Creation-Date: 2009-10-08 14:02+0200PO-Revision-Date: 2013-01-22 19:06+0000Last-Translator: FULL NAME <EMAIL@ADDRESS>Language-Team: Dutch <nl@li.org>MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bitX-Launchpad-Export-Date: 2016-07-20 12:05+0000X-Generator: Launchpad (build 18147) [empty]
          product: PartNum2
          vendor: Manufacturer2
          physical id: 2
          serial: SerNum2
          slot: DIMM_B1
     *-bank:3
          description: DIMMProject-Id-Version: lshwReport-Msgid-Bugs-To: FULL NAME <EMAIL@ADDRESS>POT-Creation-Date: 2009-10-08 14:02+0200PO-Revision-Date: 2013-01-22 19:06+0000Last-Translator: FULL NAME <EMAIL@ADDRESS>Language-Team: Dutch <nl@li.org>MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bitX-Launchpad-Export-Date: 2016-07-20 12:05+0000X-Generator: Launchpad (build 18147) [empty]
          product: PartNum3
          vendor: Manufacturer3
          physical id: 3
          serial: SerNum3
          slot: DIMM_B2


Is this an improvement? Looks like just one RAM card of 2 GiB and three empty slots...

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Re: Max size soundfonts in LMMS?

Postby merlyn » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:41 pm

You've doubled your memory, so that's an improvement. If it's 32 bit hardware you can have 4GB ram, so you can put another 2GB stick in this machine.

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Re: Max size soundfonts in LMMS?

Postby LinMusGuy » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:19 pm

Additional information:

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vendor_id   : GenuineIntel

model name   : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E7200  @ 2.53GHz

Architecture:          i686
CPU-modus(sen):        32-bit, 64-bit
Byte Order:            Little Endian
CPU(s):                2
On-line CPU(s) list:   0,1
Draden per kern:       1
Kern(en) per voet:     2
Socket(s):             1
Producent-ID:          GenuineIntel
CPU-familie:           6
Model:                 23
Stepping:              6
CPU-frequentie (MHz):  1596.000
BogoMIPS:              5066.95
L1d-cache:             32K
L1i-cache:             32K
L2-cache:              3072K
 

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Re: Max size soundfonts in LMMS?

Postby Lyberta » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:18 am

merlyn wrote:You've doubled your memory, so that's an improvement. If it's 32 bit hardware you can have 4GB ram, so you can put another 2GB stick in this machine.


You can have 64 GiB of RAM on 32 bit hardware using PAE and it is enabled by default on most Linux distros nowadays. But individual processes will still get 4 GiB of virtual space.

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Re: Max size soundfonts in LMMS?

Postby merlyn » Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:25 am

Lyberta wrote:You can have 64 GiB of RAM on 32 bit hardware using PAE and it is enabled by default on most Linux distros


True, but it's unlikely the motherboard would support 64GB ram. The question is how big a stick each slot will take.

@LinMusGuy One way to find out how much ram your computer will take is to find out the exact model number which is probably on a sticker out of sight. Then look up the model number online. I was hoping to spare you that by using dmidecode which works on server grade hardware but going by my tests it isn't reliable for lower level hardware. It under reported the maximum ram on my computer.

The processor in your new computer is capable of 64 bit. Whether the rest of the hardware is I don't know. If you can find the manufacturer's specifications online this will tell you the maximum ram.

One approach I often use is ... try it. :) You'd be taking a small risk trying a 4GB stick, but if it works you can have a decent amount of memory.

Another approach would be to try a 2GB stick (that will work), then another, then another and you'd have 8GB.

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Re: Max size soundfonts in LMMS?

Postby LinMusGuy » Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:48 pm

My "new" computer is working much better already. I have had no more problems with loading and playing soundfonts.

If I decide to add some more 2GiB Ram cards what do I have to look for to get the rights ones. Maybe I will just buy them new, when I know what I need.

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Re: Max size soundfonts in LMMS?

Postby LinMusGuy » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:24 pm

Another question: I currently run an old Linux Mint version (see below). Would it make much difference to upgrade to a newer Linux Mint version?

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Linux 3.13.0-24-generic i686

NAME="Ubuntu"
VERSION="14.04, Trusty Tahr"
ID=ubuntu
ID_LIKE=debian
PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 14.04 LTS"
VERSION_ID="14.04"
HOME_URL="http://www.ubuntu.com/"
SUPPORT_URL="http://help.ubuntu.com/"
BUG_REPORT_URL="http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/"

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Re: Max size soundfonts in LMMS?

Postby Michael Willis » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:43 pm

LinMusGuy wrote:Another question: I currently run an old Linux Mint version (see below). Would it make much difference to upgrade to a newer Linux Mint version?

It would probably be fine to upgrade; the benefits would be the security updates and newer packages. Given how old your hardware is, I suggest trying the XFCE edition, which is likely lighter weight than some of the other options: https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3671

For what it's worth, I recently switched to XFCE on Ubuntu 18.08 and I'm more happy with the performance than the Budgie desktop that I was using before.

To answer your question about buying memory, just make sure it is DDR2 so that it fits in the slot, and ideally it should be the same speed as your existing memory.


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