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Is there a Hydrogen type of app, but for bass?

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:46 pm
by Aleks
Wouldn't that be nice, to have a pattern-oriented sampler for bass, with a layout similar to Hydrogen? I think I can already use Hydrogen for that, but first, I don't know if I can control the length of the notes, and second, loading a drum kit and a set of bass samples would be quite cumbersome and heavy on the app?!

Or maybe there is some similar program that I am not aware of...

Re: Is there a Hydrogen type of app, but for bass?

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:20 pm
by ssj71
I feel like sequencer64 (or the older seq24) is exactly that. It doesn't load the samples but you drive something like linuxsampler or a synth with it and its great. https://github.com/ahlstromcj/sequencer64

Re: Is there a Hydrogen type of app, but for bass?

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:37 pm
by Aleks
I tried to install Seq64, but I get "config.status: error: cannot find input file: `Makefile.in'".

Re: Is there a Hydrogen type of app, but for bass?

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:02 pm
by Luc
Hydrogen is a sequencer. It's more specifically designed for drums and that makes it more limited, not the opposite. You would be better off using a regular sequencer for what you want. AFAIK, all DAWs have their own sequencer.

42low wrote:I like to use LMMS for that. (...) And within LMMS you can controll the tone of the notes, the length, the volume per note, and you can add fx'es to edit the sound.

Yes. It's what just about any DAW can do for you.

42low wrote:But several other midi software does this job too. You could do it directly within Ardour for instance.

Yes again.

Re: Is there a Hydrogen type of app, but for bass?

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:51 pm
by glowrak guy
Hydrogen lets you make kits, so you might have multiple sets of bass samples,
in one kit, different sounds as desired, but using the same group of notes in a bass line.
A good option in some cases, and hydro has some excellent effects options
in it's box.

Re: Is there a Hydrogen type of app, but for bass?

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:25 pm
by sysrqer
You might want to look at Redux, it is a plugin, can multisample, save as patches/kits, has a phrase editor, essentially a pattern sequencer, which you can trigger from your daw.

Re: Is there a Hydrogen type of app, but for bass?

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:39 pm
by omer666
You could also try Nekobi from DISTRHO-ports, which is a 303-based synth.

Re: Is there a Hydrogen type of app, but for bass?

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:45 am
by briandc
In order to use Hydrogen as a sequencer, you just have to make an audio file (in FLAC, for example) with no audio at all, but long enough for the notes you will need. Save that file, and load it into Hydrogen as a new kit. Then you can connect your bass to it. :)

(I had the same question myself, years ago, so I know it works..)

brian

Re: Is there a Hydrogen type of app, but for bass?

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:17 am
by chaocrator
in theory, any step sequencer + any sampler. you even could load your bass samples right into hydrogen.

in practice, it will never work completely the same, because bass notes do have length, even if it's very small, unlike drum notes that are one-shot by their nature, and it's common for drum machines/modules to ignore Note Off messages due to this fact.

Re: Is there a Hydrogen type of app, but for bass?

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:02 am
by stanlea

Re: Is there a Hydrogen type of app, but for bass?

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 12:51 pm
by chaocrator

not quite that, since it does not operate with samples.
but yes, best step sequencer ever. i've ordered one on monoplugs spring sale with 50% off.

Re: Is there a Hydrogen type of app, but for bass?

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:14 am
by stanlea
True but you can always feed a sampler with the outcoming midi. The sequencer part is made for bass parts.

Re: Is there a Hydrogen type of app, but for bass?

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:12 am
by tavasti
42low wrote:Why do drums in hydrogen, bass in b-step, other instruments in other samplers as hydrogen and b-step can't handle those that well.
Why then not do all within LMMS or in Ardour which both can handle all?

Indeed, good point. Anyhow, I can see point for using Hydrogen, beacause it has drum-specific humanizer, which can make your beats more real drummer like.

Re: Is there a Hydrogen type of app, but for bass?

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:31 pm
by tavasti
42low wrote:And i said "try LMMS to experience". We can keep talking about it. Start. Try. Find out. Experience. GO DO IT!

That is where I started, and if it would have real-audio recording & editing, I might still be using only it! :-)

Slowly learning other tools also.