A free sampler?

[rhydermike]

The main problem I have with the Linux samplers that exist is that they tend not to have any realtime controls. It's a real pain to, say, increase the release time on an instrument if you have to resort to editing a a text file. The controls on the Fluidsynth plugins look inviting, but they only edit the built in reverb and chorus levels, features that I doubt many musicians actually use.

I can't see why the sampled instrument playback plugins don't at least implement standard MIDI CCs. There are unusual situations in which people might need to re-task those controllers, but it would be pretty simple to give users the option of disabling standard controller mapping in those cases.

I have looked at the Fluidsynth code myself to see if it would be possible to implement standard CCs for things like ADSR and filter control, but I haven't made much headway yet. Another option might be with the scripting function of LinuxSampler, but I haven't got that far with that either as the documentation is still a work in progress.

I bought a commercial sample pack (SF2, but convertable to SFZ), but I'm beginning to wish I hadn't due to the lack of front end features in the various Linux sampler plugins. [end of moan ]

[GraysonPeddie]

+1. I also want to adjust the release time to make the spiccato articulation of stringed instruments such as viola and cello section short. Cutting the note length by 10% did not seem to help that much, though.

I'm using Digital Sound Factory Studio Orchestra in sfz format.

[Lyberta]

I don't think this needs to be implemented until there's a specification for it in the sample format.

[noedig]

There is something for this in the SFZ format,
ampeg_attackccN
ampeg_holdccN
ampeg_decayccN
ampeg_sustainccN
ampeg_sustain_onccN
ampeg_releaseccN
These opcodes allow you to change the respective parameters in real-time with MIDI CC, however they have to be specified in the SFZ file. I agree with the previous posts that it would be useful to have more real-time control over the sampler to quickly make adjustments.

[Lyberta]

So I'm unable to find a free SFZ sampler to test the No Budget Orchestra, has anyone found such thing?

[rhydermike]

I'm not quite sure what you mean. If you can load Carla Rack as plugin in your DAW or host, you can drop SFZ files onto it. Linux Sampler can also work with SFZ files, but it's a bit complicated to set up.

[kobraji]

this plugin and standalone what i was testing on the PC of a friend.

sfz load, however its developers claim that is not made for that
and they limited their ability to:

(Sample, lokey, hikey, lovel, hivel, offset, end, loop_mode,
LoopStart, LoopEnd, tune, pitch_keycenter, volume, group_volume, bread, groupName, key)

It is called Hise (Sampler, Synthesis, Scripting, Modulators, AudioFX, InstrumentDesing).


the truth is that this is deep and is more designed to build virtual instruments
for (developers).

It is Opensource (currently for Win and Osc).

Maybe FalkTx can take a look.

Excuse my English and if you already knew this ...


http://hartinstruments.net/hise/
https://github.com/christophhart/HISE

[Lyberta]

Doesn't have GNU/Linux version and doesn't seem to work with SFZ.

[davephillips]

It uses juce, building for linux should be as simple as generating and makefile and running 'make'.
It will probably need some include fixes, for case-sensitive FSs.

Alas, it's not so simple, at least not here. Perhaps you can help: I tried generating a Linux makefile, but I can't get Projucer to see the hs_* modules, no matter where/how I specify their location. Any suggestions ?

Best,

dp

[Lyberta]

I've tried to make a Juce version of my plugins and it doesn't support any GNU/Linux plugin types, only VST/AU/etc.

[Lyberta]

Do you have plans to merge it in official repo?

[rghvdberg]

ooh ... that Hise thing looks interesting
also gonna checkout falks fork of JUCE, I was wondering how to compile lv2 plugins with juce

[Baggypants]

What about using GrandOrgue?

https://sourceforge.net/projects/ourorgan/

It's under GPLv2, uses wav files and a .organ definition file like SFZ. Works with JACK. No LV2 plugin though.

[Lyberta]

Are they SFZ or is it a different format?