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Snare with cymbal sitting on top

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In this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_XJ_s5IsQc, Larnell Lewis plays a snare drum that has a cymbal sitting on top. It makes this crisp, abrupt snap sound. You can clearly see him strike it at about the 0:13 mark. Is there a name for using a snare+cymbal as a single percussion piece? Is that cymbal designed specifically for that use, or would just any cymbal do the trick? Does anybody know of a similar effect in one of the free sampled drumsets?
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I don't think it has a specific name besides "snare with a cymbal on it".

I came across this thing myself when at about 4am one night I was watching some "drummer reacts to snarky puppy" video where he pointed out .

And AFAIK it should work fine with just about any cymbal (different cymbals will yield slightly different sounds I would think)
Michael Willis wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:09 pm ..... Does anybody know of a similar effect in one of the free sampled drumsets?
Alternatively, anyone with a snare drum and a cymbal laying around willing to make sample? :)
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christobal wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:25 pm Alternatively, anyone with a snare drum and a cymbal laying around willing to make sample? :)
Well, I was thinking of visiting a pawn shop just to see if they have a cheap snare drum and splash cymbal, then spend an evening banging on it in front of a condenser mic, but I thought I would ask some questions first.
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This guy seem to talk about it a bit at least, testing a couple different sizes:

https://youtu.be/Fh5sIZo1_1I?t=362
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Sorry, I cannot help you here, but this video is truly fantastic! I love the song itself, Larnell Lewis is fantastic, and the keyboard solo at the end is just mind blowing!
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@finotti watch the whole concert here: Snarky Puppy - We Like It Here
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I've seen it and bought the CD right away! (My friends make fun of me when I say I buy CDs, but I am old...) :-) Really great stuff!
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"Snare with cymbal sitting on top"??

Is this supposed to be a sound, or a yoga position?

p.s. You could simulate this sound with a very short choked cymbal sample mixed very quietly into a snare hit.

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Someone who never limits himself to just using drums for drum sounds is Tony Buck - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW6d6DnWiJ0
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tony+buck

I had the pleasure of working with Tony numerous times when he plays with The Necks - https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=the+necks

I know they don't have that Snarky Puppy groove but are fascinating.
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I may try to record some samples of that, but it may take some time.
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There are videos of Larnell Lewis learning brand new songs. Simply amazing. I'd not heard Tony Buck or The Necks before. @sunrat do you play in The Necks? Fascinating music.

In the vein of amazing drummers with cymbals on their drums, I present Louis Cole: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuxzWqkyo0k
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I had some trials today, not bad. Now I need to set one or two microphones and to record.
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a.d. wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:01 pm There are videos of Larnell Lewis learning brand new songs. Simply amazing. I'd not heard Tony Buck or The Necks before. @sunrat do you play in The Necks?
Haha, no, I wish. I'm a sound engineer, and have worked at many Necks shows doing monitors (which is a rather easy job with them; set up at sound check and sit back to watch during the show}.
The Necks are Tony Buck on drums, Chris Abrahams on piano, Lloyd Swanton on bass, all of whom are involved in many varied musical projects.
Fascinating music.

In the vein of amazing drummers with cymbals on their drums, I present Louis Cole: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuxzWqkyo0k
Certainly a very good drummer. Interesting bass drum miking technique; I have used the same on occasion. :D
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You could maybe get an effect like that by re-amping a sampled snare drum through a speaker with a snare drum strapped to it and a cymbal sitting on top. That would be far less work than making a new sample probably.

That is a cool sound - almost like an 80's gated reverb snare.
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