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Chordz: only recording single notes

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I want to record the chords I play via chordz-plugin.

A midi track with chordz loaded via Carla-Rack plugin and Calf Fluidsynth is working fine. I play a single not on my midi-keyboard and I can hear a chord with the sound of the instrument chosen in Calf Fluidsynth.

But as soon as I start recording only the single notes I play are recorded:
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Re: Chordz: only recording single notes

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When loading the chordz plugin to Carla Standalone Rack and connecting the inputs and outputs like this:
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It's recording the chords triggered by a single note from my midi-keyboard:
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How can I configure the Carla-Rack plugin in ardour to make the chordz plugin to make it work as it does when loading out of ardour (standalone)?
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When you record, you record midi input. To record midi output of pluging, you should have another midi track, and set midi track with chordz to output that track.

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Re: Chordz: only recording single notes

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You mean like that:
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Doesn't work either. It only records the midi input (single notes)
I guess the problem is the Carla-RackFX only has audio out and no midi out.
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Re: Chordz: only recording single notes

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maybe native plugin will work https://www.zrythm.org/plugins/ZChordz
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Re: Chordz: only recording single notes

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hdr wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 2:54 pm You mean like that:
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Doesn't work either. It only records the midi input (single notes)
I guess the problem is the Carla-RackFX only has audio out and no midi out.
Most likely there is same problem I found with arp plugins: windows vst that modifies midi does not work in Mixbus, midi is passed thru unmodified. And most likely same in Ardour. viewtopic.php?f=48&t=21468&start=8

My finding was that adding carla as plugin in Mixbus, and running that windows plugin in it works.

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Re: Chordz: only recording single notes

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The new Ardor 6 solves this problem, for little money you can buy a copy. the track menu now allows a pre-recording fx.

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but the truth I advise against using non native vst
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Re: Chordz: only recording single notes

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tavasti wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 5:18 am My finding was that adding carla as plugin in Mixbus, and running that windows plugin in it works.
How do you add Carla as a plugin?
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Re: Chordz: only recording single notes

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hdr wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 9:47 am
tavasti wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 5:18 am My finding was that adding carla as plugin in Mixbus, and running that windows plugin in it works.
How do you add Carla as a plugin?
If you have carla installed, there is also carla lv2 plugin. So when adding a plugin, in plugin manager search for carla, en there is plenty of options. Most likely carla-patchbay is relevant plugin. There you need to connect incoming and outgoing midi.

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Re: Chordz: only recording single notes

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hdr wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 9:47 am
tavasti wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 5:18 am My finding was that adding carla as plugin in Mixbus, and running that windows plugin in it works.
How do you add Carla as a plugin?
you can investigate linvst, it is a great alternative
https://github.com/osxmidi/LinVst/releases
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Shupacabras wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 3:57 pm
hdr wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 9:47 am How do you add Carla as a plugin?
you can investigate linvst, it is a great alternative
https://github.com/osxmidi/LinVst/releases
@Shupacabras point was that midi-morphing plugins don't work with it in Mixbus/Ardour, they need Carla.

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Re: Chordz: only recording single notes

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tavasti wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 6:22 pm
Shupacabras wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 3:57 pm
hdr wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 9:47 am How do you add Carla as a plugin?
you can investigate linvst, it is a great alternative
https://github.com/osxmidi/LinVst/releases
@Shupacabras point was that midi-morphing plugins don't work with it in Mixbus/Ardour, they need Carla.
I certainly don't understand, English is not my language

here i just did a test, download the plugin, add it with linvst
In ardor I can play a single note and record a chord
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Re: Chordz: only recording single notes

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Shupacabras wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 6:52 pm
tavasti wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 6:22 pm @Shupacabras point was that midi-morphing plugins don't work with it in Mixbus/Ardour, they need Carla.
I certainly don't understand, English is not my language
Neither it is mine, but my language is so strange and rare that not even google translate can produce readable, so had to learn it :-)
Shupacabras wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 6:52 pm here i just did a test, download the plugin, add it with linvst
In ardor I can play a single note and record a chord
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Tested myself also, looks like that also for me chordz works in Mixbus althou windows vst arps did not.

However, in your screenshot you have those chords recorded in same midi track as chordz plugin? For me that track has only key inputs, need to do other for chord stuff?
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Re: Chordz: only recording single notes

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Sorry I don't understand, it must be a question of language, I only speak Spanish
the rest is google

In the new ardor6

I add new track

edit in context menu of track effects rack

select menu Disk I / O click in option custom

add chordz before "recorder"

track records VST output
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Re: Chordz: only recording single notes

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Shupacabras wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 4:14 pm Sorry I don't understand, it must be a question of language, I only speak Spanish
the rest is google

In the new ardor6

I add new track

edit in context menu of track effects rack

select menu Disk I / O click in option custom

add chordz before "recorder"

track records VST output
Ok, in Mixbus 6 there is not such possibility.

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