Spring reverb
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Spring reverb
Hello,
are there any libre spring reverb plugins based on simulation rather than IRs (impulse responses)? I know it must be hard to get right (pinging our physics expert @CrocoDuck for some insight) but I find it interesting that all these years, I never came across a single free implementation of it, while proprietary plugins such as Twangström exist and seem to work well. For students getting a physics degree, it would make an interesting final project or thesis, I think!
Perhaps they could be implemented in taopm or a similar system?
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are there any libre spring reverb plugins based on simulation rather than IRs (impulse responses)? I know it must be hard to get right (pinging our physics expert @CrocoDuck for some insight) but I find it interesting that all these years, I never came across a single free implementation of it, while proprietary plugins such as Twangström exist and seem to work well. For students getting a physics degree, it would make an interesting final project or thesis, I think!
Perhaps they could be implemented in taopm or a similar system?
PS: Happy Easter
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Re: Spring reverb
A while back I was trying to learn about how to implement a spring reverb. I found this discussion which seemed like it would be helpful, but I still haven't worked up the gumption to actually try it:
http://www.spinsemi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=598
Maybe we could put some minds together here and see what we could do about making a libre spring reverb plugin.
http://www.spinsemi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=598
Maybe we could put some minds together here and see what we could do about making a libre spring reverb plugin.
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Re: Spring reverb
Thanks for the link! I am not any good at physics, but if there some way I can help, I am up for itMichael Willis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:34 pm A while back I was trying to learn about how to implement a spring reverb. I found this discussion which seemed like it would be helpful, but I still haven't worked up the gumption to actually try it:
http://www.spinsemi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=598
Maybe we could put some minds together here and see what we could do about making a libre spring reverb plugin.
The last paper linked (https://asp-eurasipjournals.springerope ... 011/646134) seems actually very interesting.
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Re: Spring reverb
Hey there! I am very late to the party, but here my few cents.
I am not aware of any open source physical-model-based spring reverb. This is something I wanted to look into, and maybe I will do. For the time being I have only being reading about a finite difference scheme in this book (it has an entire section dedicated to helical springs): https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/boo ... 0470749012
This paper is a summary of that section, by the same author: http://www.ness-music.eu/wp-content/upl ... dafx13.pdf
Cheers!
I am not aware of any open source physical-model-based spring reverb. This is something I wanted to look into, and maybe I will do. For the time being I have only being reading about a finite difference scheme in this book (it has an entire section dedicated to helical springs): https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/boo ... 0470749012
This paper is a summary of that section, by the same author: http://www.ness-music.eu/wp-content/upl ... dafx13.pdf
Cheers!
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Re: Spring reverb
Thanks for the link CrocoDuck! Sadly, my physics skills are below secondo superiore level, but as someone who loves surf music, I really hope one day you go ahead and implement it!CrocoDuck wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:58 pm Hey there! I am very late to the party, but here my few cents.
I am not aware of any open source physical-model-based spring reverb. This is something I wanted to look into, and maybe I will do. For the time being I have only being reading about a finite difference scheme in this book (it has an entire section dedicated to helical springs): https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/boo ... 0470749012
This paper is a summary of that section, by the same author: http://www.ness-music.eu/wp-content/upl ... dafx13.pdf
Cheers!
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Re: Spring reverb
For what it's worth, I did a surf rock tune recently and found that Dragonfly Plate did a solid job on the guitar. It fooled my collaborator into thinking I had used a spring reverb.
YMMV, of course.
YMMV, of course.
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Re: Spring reverb
I think Spring Reverb also can be simulated using FEM - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite_element_method
But that requires some simulator to be implemented like I've done with Room Builder plugin.
But that requires some simulator to be implemented like I've done with Room Builder plugin.
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Re: Spring reverb
Hi Milo, would you give a link to that sound file? I'd be interested to hear that sound.
And what settings did you use in Dragonfly Plate?
Thanks!
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Re: Spring reverb
Yeah, here it is: https://sanderson.band/albums/pity-party/. It is the second song on the album, called "The Beach is Closed." It is more Beach Boys than Dick Dale, so it might not be quite what you're looking for. It's wet, but not dripping wet, if you know what I mean. But I have more surf rock projects on the horizon, and I plan to keep using Dragonfly Plate for them.
Here is a screenshot of the plugin GUI for that track:
Here is a screenshot of the plugin GUI for that track:
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Re: Spring reverb
Thanks. Yeah, the guitar is not very exposed or really featured as a lead/solo part but I get an idea. What I can hear sounds promising enough to follow that route.
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Re: Spring reverb
Good track, and it's a fair effort, but not really convincing I'm afraid.
Credentials: My peak 45RPM record buying was mid 1960s
Most Played LP: Out of the Shadows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VycZVyApqew
And the most extreme example I've ever heard from the Chantays
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j09C8clJaXo
Credentials: My peak 45RPM record buying was mid 1960s
Most Played LP: Out of the Shadows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VycZVyApqew
And the most extreme example I've ever heard from the Chantays
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j09C8clJaXo
The Yoshimi guy {apparently now an 'elderly'}
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Re: Spring reverb
Yeah baby, talking about "dripping"...folderol wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 8:29 am And the most extreme example I've ever heard from the Chantays
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j09C8clJaXo
I am a big fan of lush spring reverb (my main amp is a Fender Vibrolux) but that is a bit much.
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Re: Spring reverb
Both beautiful tracks! A personal favorite of mine is Stevie Ray Vaughan & Dick Dale's rendition of Pipeline. Can't say I prefer it to the original because the original was so influential but love everything about that cover, it's really the textbook example of 80s surf rock.folderol wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 8:29 am Good track, and it's a fair effort, but not really convincing I'm afraid.
Credentials: My peak 45RPM record buying was mid 1960s
Most Played LP: Out of the Shadows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VycZVyApqew
And the most extreme example I've ever heard from the Chantays
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j09C8clJaXo
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