Please recommend a non-JACK Linux VST host for plugin chaining

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Re: Please recommend a non-JACK Linux VST host for plugin chaining

Postby glowrak guy » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:40 am

Linux Reaper is 8.87 megabytes... Use it with alsa
if you like. Routing is a breeze. Use editors for editing,
you'll get more done and with better quality if you
don't bend your tools.

Linux is a kernel, but you produce/edit audio within an OS, using
DAW tech, plugins, standalone instruments (sometimes wrapped) and editors,
all of which have little to do with the linux kernel, whether they install
in a .wine folder, or on the moon, other than keeping proper timing.

If you want to limit your productivity for personal reasons, fine,
but the linux kernel doesn't care, and those using it won't likely
step up to feed your family, fuel your transport, or pay for your housing
just because you might have proved a point.
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Re: Please recommend a non-JACK Linux VST host for plugin chaining

Postby bhilmers » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:26 pm

glowrak guy wrote:Use editors for editing, you'll get more done and with better quality if you don't bend your tools.

Hi. I'm not exactly sure what you are saying here. My goal is to find an native Linux audio editor that has real-time effects plugin chaining. As it stands right now, I use OcenAudio or Audacity for editing and Ardour for real-time effects, but this is a clumsy solution. Reaper would still pose the same problem since, AFAIK you cannot edit waveforms in Reaper, not with the flexibility I need.

I've been using Linux for about 10 years and love it. Thanks for your help.

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Re: Please recommend a non-JACK Linux VST host for plugin chaining

Postby Drumfix » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:22 pm

You can do this in renoise

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Re: Please recommend a non-JACK Linux VST host for plugin chaining

Postby sysrqer » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:51 pm

Yeah renoise has probably the best editor around.

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Re: Please recommend a non-JACK Linux VST host for plugin chaining

Postby glowrak guy » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:57 pm

bhilmers wrote:
glowrak guy wrote:Use editors for editing, you'll get more done and with better quality if you don't bend your tools.

Hi. I'm not exactly sure what you are saying here. My goal is to find an native Linux audio editor that has real-time effects plugin chaining. As it stands right now, I use OcenAudio or Audacity for editing and Ardour for real-time effects, but this is a clumsy solution. Reaper would still pose the same problem since, AFAIK you cannot edit waveforms in Reaper, not with the flexibility I need.

I've been using Linux for about 10 years and love it. Thanks for your help.


Here is a 18 minute video for reaper audio editing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn2SlBMpzwY

15 min: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcX9odvs_lM

from https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMUHt6 ... vkaJpU3KXw

Reaper also allows integrating of external audio editors.
Your goal seems to be find daw capabilities in an editor.
Reaper may meet that need, but backwards. You can always
put editors on separate desktops. Reaper has save-live-output-to-disk,
so it's default destination could be your editors default import-audio folder.
There are troves of reaper videos to get rolling, beyond the links above
The linux version is fun, and the opposite of clumsy. You can customize
and script til the lid seals the coffin :wink:
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Re: Please recommend a non-JACK Linux VST host for plugin chaining

Postby bhilmers » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:54 am

glowrak guy wrote:Your goal seems to be find daw capabilities in an editor.

Thanks for the videos. I'm actually looking for an audio editor with a real-time effects chain. This is something Wavosaur has (my main editor) and is also a feature that existed in Sound Forge 5 back in 2001. Reaper looks very powerful. A friend of mine uses it and loves it. However, I need fine editing abilities and sometimes need to edit individual sample points. So far I haven't seen this capability in Reaper, but I'll keep looking in case I've missed it. I would like to not use a separate, integrated editor because I want to keep the session history intact.

Drumfix wrote:You can do this in renoise
sysrqer wrote:Yeah renoise has probably the best editor around.

My friend's husband writes some amazing songs in Renoise, but from what I can tell it has the same editing limitations as Reaper. It's good for chopping up samples, but I need finer editing capabilities. Thanks for the recommendation, and I'll keep Renoise in mind as I look for a audio editing solution.

EDIT: According to the manual, Renoise might work. I'll try and find some time over the weekend to test it. Thanks for all the help so far.

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Re: Please recommend a non-JACK Linux VST host for plugin chaining

Postby bhilmers » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:48 am

bhilmers wrote:
glowrak guy wrote:Your goal seems to be find daw capabilities in an editor.

Thanks for the videos. I'm actually looking for an audio editor with a real-time effects chain. This is something Wavosaur has (my main editor) and is also a feature that existed in Sound Forge 5 back in 2001. Reaper looks very powerful. A friend of mine uses it and loves it. However, I need fine editing abilities and sometimes need to edit individual sample points. So far I haven't seen this capability in Reaper, but I'll keep looking in case I've missed it. I would like to not use a separate, integrated editor because I want to keep the session history intact.

Drumfix wrote:You can do this in renoise
sysrqer wrote:Yeah renoise has probably the best editor around.

My friend's husband writes some amazing songs in Renoise, but from what I can tell it has the same editing limitations as Reaper. It's good for chopping up samples, but I need finer editing capabilities. Thanks for the recommendation, and I'll keep Renoise in mind as I look for a audio editing solution.

EDIT: According to the manual, Renoise might work. I'll try and find some time over the weekend to test it. Thanks for all the help so far.


EDIT: Yes, I tried the Renoise demo and it seems to do most of what I need. I will look into purchasing a copy. Thanks again Drumfix and sysrqer.


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