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Re: Sitala drum plugin

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:51 am
by windowsrefund
Yep, that did the trick. Nice catch. While I'm here, I'm curious to know what may be planned for supporting the importing of additional kits?

Re: Sitala drum plugin

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 3:18 am
by scottwheeler
windowsrefund wrote:Yep, that did the trick. Nice catch. While I'm here, I'm curious to know what may be planned for supporting the importing of additional kits?
Sitala does support importing additional kits (click on the "hamburger menu" in the top right), there's just not yet a significant pool of additional kits that have been made for it. (It also has its own kit file format, which is just a bunch of wav files and an XML description in a zip file.)

I actually created some new kits for it yesterday from a free sample pack and got in touch with the sample pack creator to ask for permission to redistribute them.

Re: Sitala drum plugin

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:37 am
by scottwheeler
raboof wrote:
scottwheeler wrote:I'll play around with this and see how a statically linked Sitala fares. Back in the day (I was a very active Linux desktop developer in the early 2000s) you would still run into problems if you had two versions of the same library loaded into a binary because of global variable clashes and symbol collisions
Hmm yes, good point.
scottwheeler wrote:but I think symbol visibility and thread safety may have improved enough at this point that it'd work. I'll give it a try.
Here's hoping!
From my initial tests, the thing I ran into is that the system libraries that are shipped as .a files (say, libfreetype.a) can't be linked into a shared library because they're not relocatable (i.e. compiled with -fPIC). It might be possible to recompile every library that Sitala depended on to then link to a static lib compiled with -fPIC, but that's deeper down the rabbit hole than I'm willing to go at the moment.

Re: Sitala drum plugin

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 11:57 am
by khz
khz wrote:I have entered in the "/etc/portage/package.use"

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net-misc/curl gnutls
<-- This is wrong.

Correct: In the "make.conf" add the entry

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CURL_SSL="gnutls"
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[ebuild   R    ] net-misc/curl-7.63.0::gentoo  USE="ipv6 ldap ssl threads -adns -brotli -http2 -idn -kerberos -metalink -rtmp -samba -ssh -static-libs -test" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)" CURL_SSL="gnutls -libressl -mbedtls -nss -openssl (-winssl)" 0 KiB

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 $ ldd libsitala.so
ldd: Warnung: Sie haben kein Ausführungsrecht für `./libsitala.so'
	linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffd1bfde000)
	libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6 (0x00007fe2c5454000)
	libpthread.so.0 => /lib64/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007fe2c5233000)
	libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libfreetype.so.6 (0x00007fe2c4f55000)
	libgtk-3.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgtk-3.so.0 (0x00007fe2c45ac000)
	libgobject-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2c4353000)
	libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2c401b000)
	libcurl-gnutls.so.4 => not found
	libwebkit2gtk-4.0.so.37 => /usr/lib64/libwebkit2gtk-4.0.so.37 (0x00007fe2c1329000)
	libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libXext.so.6 (0x00007fe2c1113000)
	libdl.so.2 => /lib64/libdl.so.2 (0x00007fe2c0f0f000)
	librt.so.1 => /lib64/librt.so.1 (0x00007fe2c0d07000)
	libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00007fe2c08fc000)
	libm.so.6 => /lib64/libm.so.6 (0x00007fe2c0576000)
	libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00007fe2c035e000)
	libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x00007fe2bff8e000)
	libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libxcb.so.1 (0x00007fe2bfd62000)
	/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007fe2c6464000)
	libbz2.so.1 => /lib64/libbz2.so.1 (0x00007fe2bfb4b000)
	libpng16.so.16 => /usr/lib64/libpng16.so.16 (0x00007fe2bf906000)
	libz.so.1 => /lib64/libz.so.1 (0x00007fe2bf6eb000)
	libgdk-3.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgdk-3.so.0 (0x00007fe2bf428000)
	libgmodule-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2bf224000)
	libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2bf016000)
	libXi.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libXi.so.6 (0x00007fe2bee04000)
	libXfixes.so.3 => /usr/lib64/libXfixes.so.3 (0x00007fe2bebfe000)
	libcairo-gobject.so.2 => /usr/lib64/libcairo-gobject.so.2 (0x00007fe2be9f5000)
	libcairo.so.2 => /usr/lib64/libcairo.so.2 (0x00007fe2be680000)
	libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2be459000)
	libatk-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libatk-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2be232000)
	libatk-bridge-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libatk-bridge-2.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2be000000)
	libepoxy.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libepoxy.so.0 (0x00007fe2bdcca000)
	libgio-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgio-2.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2bd907000)
	libharfbuzz.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libharfbuzz.so.0 (0x00007fe2bd5ef000)
	libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2bd3d9000)
	libpango-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libpango-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2bd18a000)
	libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x00007fe2bcf37000)
	libffi.so.7 => /usr/lib64/libffi.so.7 (0x00007fe2bcd2c000)
	libpcre.so.1 => /lib64/libpcre.so.1 (0x00007fe2bcab4000)
	libGL.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libGL.so.1 (0x00007fe2bc837000)
	libEGL.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libEGL.so.1 (0x00007fe2bc5fc000)
	libnotify.so.4 => /usr/lib64/libnotify.so.4 (0x00007fe2bc3f4000)
	libxml2.so.2 => /usr/lib64/libxml2.so.2 (0x00007fe2bc04b000)
	libxslt.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libxslt.so.1 (0x00007fe2bbe0c000)
	libsqlite3.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libsqlite3.so.0 (0x00007fe2bba8e000)
	libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0.so.18 => /usr/lib64/libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0.so.18 (0x00007fe2ba80e000)
	libicuuc.so.63 => /usr/lib64/libicuuc.so.63 (0x00007fe2ba41d000)
	libicui18n.so.63 => /usr/lib64/libicui18n.so.63 (0x00007fe2b9f19000)
	libwoff2dec.so.1.0.2 => /usr/lib64/libwoff2dec.so.1.0.2 (0x00007fe2b9d0d000)
	libharfbuzz-icu.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libharfbuzz-icu.so.0 (0x00007fe2b9b0a000)
	libgcrypt.so.20 => /usr/lib64/libgcrypt.so.20 (0x00007fe2b97c0000)
	libgstapp-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgstapp-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2b95b0000)
	libgstbase-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgstbase-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2b9338000)
	libgstreamer-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgstreamer-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2b8feb000)
	libgstpbutils-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgstpbutils-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2b8db1000)
	libgstaudio-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgstaudio-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2b8b25000)
	libgsttag-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgsttag-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2b88e4000)
	libgstvideo-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgstvideo-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2b8600000)
	libgstgl-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgstgl-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2b8397000)
	libgstfft-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgstfft-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2b8188000)
	libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib64/libjpeg.so.62 (0x00007fe2b7eee000)
	libwebp.so.7 => /usr/lib64/libwebp.so.7 (0x00007fe2b7c3b000)
	libwebpdemux.so.2 => /usr/lib64/libwebpdemux.so.2 (0x00007fe2b7a36000)
	libenchant.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libenchant.so.1 (0x00007fe2b782a000)
	libsoup-2.4.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libsoup-2.4.so.1 (0x00007fe2b7532000)
	libtasn1.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libtasn1.so.6 (0x00007fe2b731e000)
	libhyphen.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libhyphen.so.0 (0x00007fe2b7117000)
	libXcomposite.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libXcomposite.so.1 (0x00007fe2b6f14000)
	libXdamage.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libXdamage.so.1 (0x00007fe2b6d11000)
	libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libXau.so.6 (0x00007fe2b6b0d000)
	libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x00007fe2b6907000)
	libXrandr.so.2 => /usr/lib64/libXrandr.so.2 (0x00007fe2b66fb000)
	libXcursor.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libXcursor.so.1 (0x00007fe2b64f0000)
	libpixman-1.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libpixman-1.so.0 (0x00007fe2b61e1000)
	libxcb-shm.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libxcb-shm.so.0 (0x00007fe2b5fdd000)
	libxcb-render.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libxcb-render.so.0 (0x00007fe2b5dce000)
	libXrender.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libXrender.so.1 (0x00007fe2b5bc3000)
	libatspi.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libatspi.so.0 (0x00007fe2b598e000)
	libdbus-1.so.3 => /usr/lib64/libdbus-1.so.3 (0x00007fe2b573f000)
	libresolv.so.2 => /lib64/libresolv.so.2 (0x00007fe2b5527000)
	libmount.so.1 => /lib64/libmount.so.1 (0x00007fe2b52c5000)
	libgraphite2.so.3 => /usr/lib64/libgraphite2.so.3 (0x00007fe2b509d000)
	libfribidi.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libfribidi.so.0 (0x00007fe2b4e7e000)
	libexpat.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libexpat.so.1 (0x00007fe2b4c40000)
	libuuid.so.1 => /lib64/libuuid.so.1 (0x00007fe2b4a38000)
	libglapi.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libglapi.so.0 (0x00007fe2b4806000)
	libdrm.so.2 => /usr/lib64/libdrm.so.2 (0x00007fe2b45f1000)
	libxcb-glx.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libxcb-glx.so.0 (0x00007fe2b43d4000)
	libX11-xcb.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1 (0x00007fe2b41d2000)
	libxcb-dri2.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libxcb-dri2.so.0 (0x00007fe2b3fcd000)
	libXxf86vm.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libXxf86vm.so.1 (0x00007fe2b3dc7000)
	libxcb-dri3.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libxcb-dri3.so.0 (0x00007fe2b3bc2000)
	libxcb-present.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libxcb-present.so.0 (0x00007fe2b39bf000)
	libxcb-sync.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libxcb-sync.so.1 (0x00007fe2b37b8000)
	libxshmfence.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libxshmfence.so.1 (0x00007fe2b35b6000)
	libgbm.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libgbm.so.1 (0x00007fe2b33a7000)
	libxcb-xfixes.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libxcb-xfixes.so.0 (0x00007fe2b319e000)
	libicudata.so.63 => /usr/lib64/libicudata.so.63 (0x00007fe2b15b0000)
	libwoff2common.so.1.0.2 => /usr/lib64/libwoff2common.so.1.0.2 (0x00007fe2b13ad000)
	libbrotlidec.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libbrotlidec.so.1 (0x00007fe2b11a0000)
	libgpg-error.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgpg-error.so.0 (0x00007fe2b0f7c000)
	liborc-0.4.so.0 => /usr/lib64/liborc-0.4.so.0 (0x00007fe2b0ccc000)
	libgstallocators-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgstallocators-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2b0ac8000)
	libgudev-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgudev-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2b08be000)
	libbsd.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libbsd.so.0 (0x00007fe2b06a1000)
	libblkid.so.1 => /lib64/libblkid.so.1 (0x00007fe2b0449000)
	libbrotlicommon.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libbrotlicommon.so.1 (0x00007fe2b0228000)
	libudev.so.1 => /lib64/libudev.so.1 (0x00007fe2affff000)
libcurl-gnutls.so.4 => not found

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 # /usr/lib64/libcur
libcurl.so        libcurl.so.4      libcurl.so.4.5.0  libcurses.so
8-)

Re: Sitala drum plugin

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:21 am
by autotech
scottwheeler wrote:I'm not entirely sure that I would recommend this (since I don't know what assumptions Ardour makes about the old libraries), but just doing this makes things work for me:

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cd /opt/Ardour-5.12.0/lib
mkdir old
mv libgio-2.0.so.0 libglib-2.0.so.0 libgobject-2.0.so.0 libharfbuzz.so.0 old/
After that Ardour runs fine, and loads Sitala without problems.

Basically that removes Ardour's overrides of the relevant system libraries (but still leaves many other ones in place -- again, their packaging process is very questionable), and gets things working for Sitala.
Greetings,

I got Sitala to work in Ardour 5.12 (KXStudio) and Ubuntu 18.04.2 with the method above. I did everything with root Nautilus. The old libraries are backed up in the "old" directory and so far I have not seen any trouble from Ardour. Sitala shows up as a multi-output plugin, but it works. We'll see how it holds up. Hopefully all problems from every angle get tackled so both Ardour and plugins will be ready for prime time. In the meantime I'll be taking it as far as it can go.

Cheers.

AT

Re: Sitala drum plugin

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:55 am
by scottwheeler
Something I figured the folks here would be interested in: for the upcoming release, we removed the dependency on GTK. It was only being used by Webkit to render changelogs in our update notifications, which are now shown in plain text on Linux, rather than HTML. This means a lot less dependencies are pulled in, and will probably make Sitala clash less with the Ardour packages available from their website (which include system libraries).

Re: Sitala drum plugin

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:48 pm
by milk
https://decomposer.de/sitala/

From https://www.facebook.com/decomposermusi ... 3375543649 :
There are a handful of big new features, and loads of little usability tweaks all over the app. Here's the big stuff:

• Brand new 808 kit

One of Berlin's top producers / mastering houses dragged out an old 808 and sampled a brand new default kit just for us.

• Drag & Drop Kit Management

Ever get half-way through setting up a kit and realize that you want one more cymbal, but want to group it next to your other cymbal sounds? Happens to us all the time. Now it's easy to move pads around or copy them via drag and drop.

• File browser

We've got a slick new file browser that lets you select samples without ever leaving the sample view window.

• User kits

It's now possible to save your kits to a user kits folder that's easy to find in the kits drop down menu.

That's the big stuff. There are a bajillion other little tweaks throughout the app to make your life easier.

Now, another big theme with this release is that we're hoping to convince more sample pack vendors to start shipping stuff in Sitala format. We've added a collection of features to make their lives easier and created a page on our website to help them along. If you're in the business of distributing sample packs, we'd love to talk to you!

Bass drums speak louder than words, so I'll shut up and let you get to playing with the new toy. We're looking forward to your feedback!

Re: Sitala drum plugin

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:09 pm
by sysrqer
There is a packaging error on the ubuntu deb I think:

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sudo dpkg -i sitala-1.0.0-beta-2_amd64.deb 
(Reading database ... 374820 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack sitala-1.0.0-beta-2_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking sitala (1.0.0-beta-2) over (1.0.0-beta-1) ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of sitala:
 sitala depends on libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 (>= 2.26.2-1~deb10+1); however:
  Version of libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37:amd64 on system is 2.26.2-0ubuntu0.18.04.1.

Re: Sitala drum plugin

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:52 pm
by elcalen
sysrqer wrote:There is a packaging error on the ubuntu deb I think
It does install without error on Debian testing, which appears to have a compatible version of libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37. Which is lucky for me, since I'm on Debian testing.

But yeah, looks like Ubuntu is on a slightly different version of the package. Unless there's something very specific in the 1~deb10+1 build that Sitala depends on, I'd guess that's an error in the .deb build?

Re: Sitala drum plugin

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:46 pm
by scottwheeler
elcalen wrote:
sysrqer wrote:There is a packaging error on the ubuntu deb I think
It does install without error on Debian testing, which appears to have a compatible version of libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37. Which is lucky for me, since I'm on Debian testing.
Actually what initially happened was I built versions for Debian Stable and Ubuntu, but then uploaded the wrong one. For the moment we didn't intend to release the Debian package since it basically didn't work at all on Debian Stable (main window didn't show up in standalone, crashed immediately when used as a plugin). I'm not sure why it pulled in GTK on Debian, but that was the least of its issues.

Now the site has the correct Ubuntu package.

Re: Sitala drum plugin

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:18 pm
by sysrqer
All working now, thanks.

Honestly, this is a dream for me right now. I've spent the last year or so making music exclusively with VCV Rack and now I'm starting to use reaper again a bit more but I've been really stuck for a decent drum sampler solution. I forgot about this plugin but it is exactly what I've needed.