Re: Sitala drum plugin
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:51 am
Yep, that did the trick. Nice catch. While I'm here, I'm curious to know what may be planned for supporting the importing of additional kits?
Sitala does support importing additional kits (click on the "hamburger menu" in the top right), there's just not yet a significant pool of additional kits that have been made for it. (It also has its own kit file format, which is just a bunch of wav files and an XML description in a zip file.)windowsrefund wrote:Yep, that did the trick. Nice catch. While I'm here, I'm curious to know what may be planned for supporting the importing of additional kits?
From my initial tests, the thing I ran into is that the system libraries that are shipped as .a files (say, libfreetype.a) can't be linked into a shared library because they're not relocatable (i.e. compiled with -fPIC). It might be possible to recompile every library that Sitala depended on to then link to a static lib compiled with -fPIC, but that's deeper down the rabbit hole than I'm willing to go at the moment.raboof wrote:Hmm yes, good point.scottwheeler wrote:I'll play around with this and see how a statically linked Sitala fares. Back in the day (I was a very active Linux desktop developer in the early 2000s) you would still run into problems if you had two versions of the same library loaded into a binary because of global variable clashes and symbol collisions
Here's hoping!scottwheeler wrote:but I think symbol visibility and thread safety may have improved enough at this point that it'd work. I'll give it a try.
<-- This is wrong.khz wrote:I have entered in the "/etc/portage/package.use"Code: Select all
net-misc/curl gnutls
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CURL_SSL="gnutls"
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[ebuild R ] net-misc/curl-7.63.0::gentoo USE="ipv6 ldap ssl threads -adns -brotli -http2 -idn -kerberos -metalink -rtmp -samba -ssh -static-libs -test" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)" CURL_SSL="gnutls -libressl -mbedtls -nss -openssl (-winssl)" 0 KiB
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$ ldd libsitala.so
ldd: Warnung: Sie haben kein Ausführungsrecht für `./libsitala.so'
linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffd1bfde000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6 (0x00007fe2c5454000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib64/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007fe2c5233000)
libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libfreetype.so.6 (0x00007fe2c4f55000)
libgtk-3.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgtk-3.so.0 (0x00007fe2c45ac000)
libgobject-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2c4353000)
libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2c401b000)
libcurl-gnutls.so.4 => not found
libwebkit2gtk-4.0.so.37 => /usr/lib64/libwebkit2gtk-4.0.so.37 (0x00007fe2c1329000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libXext.so.6 (0x00007fe2c1113000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib64/libdl.so.2 (0x00007fe2c0f0f000)
librt.so.1 => /lib64/librt.so.1 (0x00007fe2c0d07000)
libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00007fe2c08fc000)
libm.so.6 => /lib64/libm.so.6 (0x00007fe2c0576000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/8.2.0/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00007fe2c035e000)
libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x00007fe2bff8e000)
libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libxcb.so.1 (0x00007fe2bfd62000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007fe2c6464000)
libbz2.so.1 => /lib64/libbz2.so.1 (0x00007fe2bfb4b000)
libpng16.so.16 => /usr/lib64/libpng16.so.16 (0x00007fe2bf906000)
libz.so.1 => /lib64/libz.so.1 (0x00007fe2bf6eb000)
libgdk-3.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgdk-3.so.0 (0x00007fe2bf428000)
libgmodule-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2bf224000)
libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2bf016000)
libXi.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libXi.so.6 (0x00007fe2bee04000)
libXfixes.so.3 => /usr/lib64/libXfixes.so.3 (0x00007fe2bebfe000)
libcairo-gobject.so.2 => /usr/lib64/libcairo-gobject.so.2 (0x00007fe2be9f5000)
libcairo.so.2 => /usr/lib64/libcairo.so.2 (0x00007fe2be680000)
libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2be459000)
libatk-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libatk-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2be232000)
libatk-bridge-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libatk-bridge-2.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2be000000)
libepoxy.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libepoxy.so.0 (0x00007fe2bdcca000)
libgio-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgio-2.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2bd907000)
libharfbuzz.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libharfbuzz.so.0 (0x00007fe2bd5ef000)
libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2bd3d9000)
libpango-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libpango-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2bd18a000)
libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x00007fe2bcf37000)
libffi.so.7 => /usr/lib64/libffi.so.7 (0x00007fe2bcd2c000)
libpcre.so.1 => /lib64/libpcre.so.1 (0x00007fe2bcab4000)
libGL.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libGL.so.1 (0x00007fe2bc837000)
libEGL.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libEGL.so.1 (0x00007fe2bc5fc000)
libnotify.so.4 => /usr/lib64/libnotify.so.4 (0x00007fe2bc3f4000)
libxml2.so.2 => /usr/lib64/libxml2.so.2 (0x00007fe2bc04b000)
libxslt.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libxslt.so.1 (0x00007fe2bbe0c000)
libsqlite3.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libsqlite3.so.0 (0x00007fe2bba8e000)
libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0.so.18 => /usr/lib64/libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0.so.18 (0x00007fe2ba80e000)
libicuuc.so.63 => /usr/lib64/libicuuc.so.63 (0x00007fe2ba41d000)
libicui18n.so.63 => /usr/lib64/libicui18n.so.63 (0x00007fe2b9f19000)
libwoff2dec.so.1.0.2 => /usr/lib64/libwoff2dec.so.1.0.2 (0x00007fe2b9d0d000)
libharfbuzz-icu.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libharfbuzz-icu.so.0 (0x00007fe2b9b0a000)
libgcrypt.so.20 => /usr/lib64/libgcrypt.so.20 (0x00007fe2b97c0000)
libgstapp-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgstapp-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2b95b0000)
libgstbase-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgstbase-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2b9338000)
libgstreamer-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgstreamer-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2b8feb000)
libgstpbutils-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgstpbutils-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2b8db1000)
libgstaudio-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgstaudio-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2b8b25000)
libgsttag-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgsttag-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2b88e4000)
libgstvideo-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgstvideo-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2b8600000)
libgstgl-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgstgl-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2b8397000)
libgstfft-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgstfft-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2b8188000)
libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib64/libjpeg.so.62 (0x00007fe2b7eee000)
libwebp.so.7 => /usr/lib64/libwebp.so.7 (0x00007fe2b7c3b000)
libwebpdemux.so.2 => /usr/lib64/libwebpdemux.so.2 (0x00007fe2b7a36000)
libenchant.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libenchant.so.1 (0x00007fe2b782a000)
libsoup-2.4.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libsoup-2.4.so.1 (0x00007fe2b7532000)
libtasn1.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libtasn1.so.6 (0x00007fe2b731e000)
libhyphen.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libhyphen.so.0 (0x00007fe2b7117000)
libXcomposite.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libXcomposite.so.1 (0x00007fe2b6f14000)
libXdamage.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libXdamage.so.1 (0x00007fe2b6d11000)
libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libXau.so.6 (0x00007fe2b6b0d000)
libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x00007fe2b6907000)
libXrandr.so.2 => /usr/lib64/libXrandr.so.2 (0x00007fe2b66fb000)
libXcursor.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libXcursor.so.1 (0x00007fe2b64f0000)
libpixman-1.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libpixman-1.so.0 (0x00007fe2b61e1000)
libxcb-shm.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libxcb-shm.so.0 (0x00007fe2b5fdd000)
libxcb-render.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libxcb-render.so.0 (0x00007fe2b5dce000)
libXrender.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libXrender.so.1 (0x00007fe2b5bc3000)
libatspi.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libatspi.so.0 (0x00007fe2b598e000)
libdbus-1.so.3 => /usr/lib64/libdbus-1.so.3 (0x00007fe2b573f000)
libresolv.so.2 => /lib64/libresolv.so.2 (0x00007fe2b5527000)
libmount.so.1 => /lib64/libmount.so.1 (0x00007fe2b52c5000)
libgraphite2.so.3 => /usr/lib64/libgraphite2.so.3 (0x00007fe2b509d000)
libfribidi.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libfribidi.so.0 (0x00007fe2b4e7e000)
libexpat.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libexpat.so.1 (0x00007fe2b4c40000)
libuuid.so.1 => /lib64/libuuid.so.1 (0x00007fe2b4a38000)
libglapi.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libglapi.so.0 (0x00007fe2b4806000)
libdrm.so.2 => /usr/lib64/libdrm.so.2 (0x00007fe2b45f1000)
libxcb-glx.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libxcb-glx.so.0 (0x00007fe2b43d4000)
libX11-xcb.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1 (0x00007fe2b41d2000)
libxcb-dri2.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libxcb-dri2.so.0 (0x00007fe2b3fcd000)
libXxf86vm.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libXxf86vm.so.1 (0x00007fe2b3dc7000)
libxcb-dri3.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libxcb-dri3.so.0 (0x00007fe2b3bc2000)
libxcb-present.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libxcb-present.so.0 (0x00007fe2b39bf000)
libxcb-sync.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libxcb-sync.so.1 (0x00007fe2b37b8000)
libxshmfence.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libxshmfence.so.1 (0x00007fe2b35b6000)
libgbm.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libgbm.so.1 (0x00007fe2b33a7000)
libxcb-xfixes.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libxcb-xfixes.so.0 (0x00007fe2b319e000)
libicudata.so.63 => /usr/lib64/libicudata.so.63 (0x00007fe2b15b0000)
libwoff2common.so.1.0.2 => /usr/lib64/libwoff2common.so.1.0.2 (0x00007fe2b13ad000)
libbrotlidec.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libbrotlidec.so.1 (0x00007fe2b11a0000)
libgpg-error.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgpg-error.so.0 (0x00007fe2b0f7c000)
liborc-0.4.so.0 => /usr/lib64/liborc-0.4.so.0 (0x00007fe2b0ccc000)
libgstallocators-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgstallocators-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2b0ac8000)
libgudev-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgudev-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fe2b08be000)
libbsd.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libbsd.so.0 (0x00007fe2b06a1000)
libblkid.so.1 => /lib64/libblkid.so.1 (0x00007fe2b0449000)
libbrotlicommon.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libbrotlicommon.so.1 (0x00007fe2b0228000)
libudev.so.1 => /lib64/libudev.so.1 (0x00007fe2affff000)
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# /usr/lib64/libcur
libcurl.so libcurl.so.4 libcurl.so.4.5.0 libcurses.so
Greetings,scottwheeler wrote:I'm not entirely sure that I would recommend this (since I don't know what assumptions Ardour makes about the old libraries), but just doing this makes things work for me:
After that Ardour runs fine, and loads Sitala without problems.Code: Select all
cd /opt/Ardour-5.12.0/lib mkdir old mv libgio-2.0.so.0 libglib-2.0.so.0 libgobject-2.0.so.0 libharfbuzz.so.0 old/
Basically that removes Ardour's overrides of the relevant system libraries (but still leaves many other ones in place -- again, their packaging process is very questionable), and gets things working for Sitala.
There are a handful of big new features, and loads of little usability tweaks all over the app. Here's the big stuff:
• Brand new 808 kit
One of Berlin's top producers / mastering houses dragged out an old 808 and sampled a brand new default kit just for us.
• Drag & Drop Kit Management
Ever get half-way through setting up a kit and realize that you want one more cymbal, but want to group it next to your other cymbal sounds? Happens to us all the time. Now it's easy to move pads around or copy them via drag and drop.
• File browser
We've got a slick new file browser that lets you select samples without ever leaving the sample view window.
• User kits
It's now possible to save your kits to a user kits folder that's easy to find in the kits drop down menu.
That's the big stuff. There are a bajillion other little tweaks throughout the app to make your life easier.
Now, another big theme with this release is that we're hoping to convince more sample pack vendors to start shipping stuff in Sitala format. We've added a collection of features to make their lives easier and created a page on our website to help them along. If you're in the business of distributing sample packs, we'd love to talk to you!
Bass drums speak louder than words, so I'll shut up and let you get to playing with the new toy. We're looking forward to your feedback!
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sudo dpkg -i sitala-1.0.0-beta-2_amd64.deb
(Reading database ... 374820 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack sitala-1.0.0-beta-2_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking sitala (1.0.0-beta-2) over (1.0.0-beta-1) ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of sitala:
sitala depends on libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 (>= 2.26.2-1~deb10+1); however:
Version of libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37:amd64 on system is 2.26.2-0ubuntu0.18.04.1.
It does install without error on Debian testing, which appears to have a compatible version of libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37. Which is lucky for me, since I'm on Debian testing.sysrqer wrote:There is a packaging error on the ubuntu deb I think
Actually what initially happened was I built versions for Debian Stable and Ubuntu, but then uploaded the wrong one. For the moment we didn't intend to release the Debian package since it basically didn't work at all on Debian Stable (main window didn't show up in standalone, crashed immediately when used as a plugin). I'm not sure why it pulled in GTK on Debian, but that was the least of its issues.elcalen wrote:It does install without error on Debian testing, which appears to have a compatible version of libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37. Which is lucky for me, since I'm on Debian testing.sysrqer wrote:There is a packaging error on the ubuntu deb I think
Hi,sysrqer wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:29 pm Just found this, it's a cross platform drum machine. It's quite simple but has some handy features.
https://decomposer.de/sitala.html
The .deb file can be viewed with File Roller. It contains the standalone binary and the Linux VST (not to be confused with a Windows VST). The VST is called libsitala.so and it will be installed to /usr/lib/lxvst/ (which is always the default in Linux). If you want to use the VST in your DAW make sure that it looks for VST's in that directory and refresh. I don't use Reaper so I don't know how to set paths in that DAW.Codesound wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 9:34 amHi,sysrqer wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:29 pm Just found this, it's a cross platform drum machine. It's quite simple but has some handy features.
https://decomposer.de/sitala.html
Linux Mint 20.1-x64 cinnamom, reaper 6.28, sitala 1.0.deb
I installed sitala.deb but Reaper doesn't recognize It...
What Is the correct Path to indicate in reaper?
Thanks for this forum and for anyone help me....
I had the same issue. The Sitala VSTi installs to /usr/lib/lxvst. Either add that to the REAPER path or copy the file to a location you're already using in REAPER.I installed sitala.deb but Reaper doesn't recognize It...
What Is the correct Path to indicate in reaper?