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Re: vember audio surge is now opensource

Postby stanlea » Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:29 pm

sysrqer wrote:I can get the one from kxstudio repos working in renoise.


Can you check the availability of presets ? On my side, I can load almost any of them at first time, but after that, a second preset will not load.

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Re: vember audio surge is now opensource

Postby sysrqer » Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:33 pm

lilith wrote:It needs Ubuntu >= 18, right?

To built apparently it needs premake5 which doesn't seem to be available even for v18 but this is just to build it. If you use kxstudio repo on 16 I would expect it to still work.

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Re: vember audio surge is now opensource

Postby sysrqer » Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:37 pm

stanlea wrote:
Can you check the availability of presets ? On my side, I can load almost any of them at first time, but after that, a second preset will not load.

I can't replicate that, I can change through many presets without any problem. Running on neon here.

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Re: vember audio surge is now opensource

Postby rghvdberg » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:40 am

Surge is very, very, very, early work :-)
It is known that some hosts can't find the plugin.

It crashes constantly on my system but runs in a vm with the same OS. :?:

Readme on github has recently been updated for compiling on Linux.

Git pull often. Much work is going on atm.

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Re: vember audio surge is now opensource

Postby stanlea » Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:38 pm

I remember the first time I heard it; in its time it was certainly one of the best synths on the software side. I hope progresses will be made, but the GPL build is already a pleasure for the ears.

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Re: vember audio surge is now opensource

Postby davephillips » Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:23 pm

Greetings,

Btw, if anyone has sound coming from it maybe they can tell me how ? All I get is a clicking noise when running it in Carla. What am I missing ?

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Re: vember audio surge is now opensource

Postby sysrqer » Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:51 pm

Dave, I just tried it in carla and it was just a case of adding it and connecting a keyboard, no special set up. All works normally for me. Perhaps it's a samplerate problem? Running 44.1 here.

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Re: vember audio surge is now opensource

Postby davephillips » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:22 pm

sysrqer wrote:Dave, I just tried it in carla and it was just a case of adding it and connecting a keyboard, no special set up. All works normally for me. Perhaps it's a samplerate problem? Running 44.1 here.


I got it working with the VCV Rack VST Host module. However, when the tempo clock - the sequencer speed - is increased the sound goes to hell. At lower tempi everything sounds great so I guess I'll just use it in slow songs. ;)

Still only clicking noises in Carla. Btw, I tried 44100 Hz and 48000 Hz for engine sample rates in VCV Rack, it didn't seem to make any difference to Surge, so I don't think the failure in Bitwig is due to a sample rate problem.

Surge shows up listed in QTractor (build from latest git pull) but crashes the sequencer on loading.

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Re: vember audio surge is now opensource

Postby davephillips » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:44 pm

davephillips wrote:I got it working with the VCV Rack VST Host module. However, when the tempo clock - the sequencer speed - is increased the sound goes to hell. At lower tempi everything sounds great ...


This problem is gone with the latest build from git sources. It works very well in Rack regardless of tempo.

Still no joy with Carla, QTractor, or Bitwig. Strange.

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Re: vember audio surge is now opensource

Postby oddy.o.lynx » Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:23 am

I am using Debian Stretch with KDE plasma and the git version builds in Linux with close to full functionality.

It's still in testing mode but it's highly testable. 8) There are a few issues, for example with resizing and menus to be fully operational and some elements are not lighting up properly but things are moving forward. I have been following the progression of this synth in Linux since it was first suggested it could be possible. I hadn't been able to build it until last week so this is already great news even though it's still in development and there's much work to be done.

Currently, it runs in Carla, Waveform 9, Tracktion 7, Reaper, Radium and MixBus 5. It does not get recognized in Bitwig or Renoise and crashes Qtractor. Ardour can see it and connect to MIDI in but for some reason can't connect to audio out.

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Re: vember audio surge is now opensource

Postby oddy.o.lynx » Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:39 am

For building it is important to build the VST2 version and use the correct SDK. It has to use the VST2 SDK that is the VST 2 version to work as the VST3 is not functioning in Linux.

Once built it's important to note that on Linux

for user-made presets, the folder is ~/Documents/Surge
and for Surge factory presets, wavetables and preferences, the folder is ~/.local/share/Surge

running the install script will set up the ~/.local/share/Surge folder with contents and creating the first user Store will create the ~/Documents/Surge folder with the first user preset

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EDIT: there have been some changes to the code
running the command

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 ./build-linux.sh --help


will show a few options and switches if the intention is to install local
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Re: vember audio surge is now opensource

Postby rghvdberg » Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:01 am

oddy.o.lynx wrote:Ardour can see it and connect to MIDI in but for some reason can't connect to audio out.

Disable "Strict I/O" on the track and it will work"
This however needs fixing ofc.
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Re: vember audio surge is now opensource

Postby oddy.o.lynx » Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:48 am

oddy.o.lynx wrote:Ardour can see it and connect to MIDI in but for some reason can't connect to audio out.

rghvdberg wrote:Disable "Strict I/O" on the track and it will work"
This however needs fixing ofc.


That worked. Thanks.

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Re: vember audio surge is now opensource

Postby AlbertoZ » Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:13 pm

Hello, I built surge yesterday from the git repository (the surge build provided by kxstudio crashes at startup in my case).
I get everything working for few seconds, then when I switch preset the synth stops working, i.e. it doesn't provide audio anymore.
Does anyone have the same problem?
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Alberto

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Re: vember audio surge is now opensource

Postby stanlea » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:27 pm

yes, it seems a known bug but


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