Hey, any good pitch shifters plugins available to make a guitar sound like a bass guitar?
I've tried others in the past but the bass sounded muddy and bubbly! This was years ago then I started to use sf2 bass guitar fonts.
Can't afford a bass guitar at the moment and would like to get that real bass/guitar feel of string bends, vibrato, etc.
I've used the rubberband ladspa. It worked pretty well. I had to play a bit with the picking and which pickup etc. to get a realistic bass sound. It came out sounding like an acoustic bass at first. Its definitely not useful for a live thing (40+ms latency), but its very good post processing (no tracking issues or any sort of glitch). I was pretty happy with the result in the end, but since then I've gotten a real bass guitar and redid the tracks I had tried it on.
I tried rubber band. it worked pretty well. Just tested it on an acoustic guitar that is distorted, however latency is not being compensated. Ive got it on a track directly and it puts the guitar out of sync with everything else.
orbitfold wrote:Well rubberband cannot see in to the future can it?
Why not? That's how plugin latency compensation works. Plugins that introduce latency report their latency to the host and the host is supposed to delay everything else by the same amount so that everything stays in sync.
Other plugins i use seem to be work fine. I dont know where the bug might be. I cant see it being ardour since other plugins seem to run fine. there maybe a bug in the plugin and its not reporting latency in the right place. But it does say in the plugin that latency is 40ms. changing the latancy doesnt seem to do anything.
Its a strange one.
i'll ask on the ardour forums incase it is an ardour bug,
Its not like i have a ton of tracks with lots of plugins. Literally have 2 acouistic tracks and a midi drum track
There is a LADSPA plugin that's called "Artificial latency". It reports some latency but doesn't produce it. This could help if your rubberband plugin doesn't report its latency correctly.
If you are trying to soft monitor, meaning hear the effect applied as you are playing, latency compensation doesn't apply. If you are playing back recorded material and applying the effect, it should compensate, if not, either the plugin isn't reporting correctly, or ardour is doing something weird. When I did it in ardour3 it was being compensated for perfectly on playback. While tracking I did not soft monitor (I tried it at first and yes, 40ms latency is unplayable).
ssj71 wrote:If you are trying to soft monitor, meaning hear the effect applied as you are playing, latency compensation doesn't apply. If you are playing back recorded material and applying the effect, it should compensate, if not, either the plugin isn't reporting correctly, or ardour is doing something weird. When I did it in ardour3 it was being compensated for perfectly on playback. While tracking I did not soft monitor (I tried it at first and yes, 40ms latency is unplayable).
Im using the latest ardour 3. Ill need to test other plugins that have large processing latencys just incase its a bug that has surfaced. its the only plugin i have used that i have noticed latancy issues on tracks playing back recorded material. all calf plugins, eq10q etc have been fine. tubewarmth, saturation and distortion plugins all fine.
Infact i think i even managed to use guitarix with a pitch shifter plugin and an eq live without latency issues.
bazsound wrote:Infact i think i even managed to use guitarix with a pitch shifter plugin and an eq live without latency issues.
When you add a wet/dry control to the pitch shifter (you can do that for LADSPA plugs with Show Details -> use dry/wet box) and mix the clean and processed signal, you will notice the latency the pitch shifter introduce.
The only pitch shifter I've found witch works in realtime is the smbPitchShifter by Stephan M. Bernsee. http://www.dspdimension.com/admin/pitch ... ng-the-ft/
With some small optimization and ported to use fftw3 it work in rt (5.33ms latency), but still use ~50%DSP load.
bazsound wrote:Infact i think i even managed to use guitarix with a pitch shifter plugin and an eq live without latency issues.
When you add a wet/dry control to the pitch shifter (you can do that for LADSPA plugs with Show Details -> use dry/wet box) and mix the clean and processed signal, you will notice the latency the pitch shifter introduce.
The only pitch shifter I've found witch works in realtime is the smbPitchShifter by Stephan M. Bernsee. http://www.dspdimension.com/admin/pitch ... ng-the-ft/
With some small optimization and ported to use fftw3 it work in rt (5.33ms latency), but still use ~50%DSP load.
Sorry your right it was the distortion i managed to use live without too much latency issues. Not the pitch shifter.
For the project that i detuned a guitar to sound like a bass i used the PVscale Pitch shifter in combination with calf eq, calf bass enhancer and also hard limiter.
you can hear it with the above link as an example . the PV Scale pitch shifter (cabbage plugin) actually seems pretty good. And it seems that latency compensation is working with that one.
It worked for that track, but im not sure how flexible it would be. I have a feeling that your pretty much limited to that type of bass tone.
