Package updates in the KXStudio repositories

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Re: Package updates in the KXStudio repositories

Postby falkTX » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:57 am

That is possible, if someone makes one.
I have my free time all occupied. Feel free to start a project like this yourself, no one will stop you ;)

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Re: Package updates in the KXStudio repositories

Postby falkTX » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:23 am

Some small updates (I forgot to post here...)

V1 synths (drumkv1, padthv1, samplv1 and synthv1) updated to 0.9.1 (provides Qt5 and X11 UI)
Qtractor updated to 0.9.1
calf-plugins updated to 0.90.1

Some notes:
guitarix was updated, up to the point it switched to curl library.
due to differences on curl ABI and packaging (libcurl3 vs libcurl4), I cannot update guitarix further or its build will stop working for 18.04

v1 synths currently crash on load under the kxstudio ardour package.
I know what the issue is, and have a solution. I am discussing it with Robin.
Will upload a fixed package quite soon.

Slightly off-topic, but regarding ardour and issues with plugin UIs:
ardour 6 will remove support for Gtk and Qt plugin UIs

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Re: Package updates in the KXStudio repositories

Postby lilith » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:38 am

Slightly off-topic, but regarding ardour and issues with plugin UIs:
ardour 6 will remove support for Gtk and Qt plugin UIs


:shock:

What´s the consequence of that? I guess many plugins can´t be use then with Ardour, like the v1 synths, etc. ?
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Re: Package updates in the KXStudio repositories

Postby falkTX » Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:34 pm

lilith wrote:
Slightly off-topic, but regarding ardour and issues with plugin UIs:
ardour 6 will remove support for Gtk and Qt plugin UIs


:shock:

What´s the consequence of that? I guess many plugins can´t be use then with Ardour, like the v1 synths, etc. ?


latest v1 update added X11 UI, so those will keep working.
I added lv2 showInterface (aka external) to calf plugins, so those will work too (just without it being embed in ardour). well, hopefully...

invada and guitarix plugin UIs will stop working though.
unless they move away from gtk2 or expose an X11 UI.

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Re: Package updates in the KXStudio repositories

Postby lilith » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:19 pm

Ok, so there are solutions already implemented :D
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Re: Package updates in the KXStudio repositories

Postby bluebell » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:24 pm

lilith wrote:Ok, so there are solutions already implemented :D


I've got the impression that the Ardour developers don't like CALF plugins :roll:

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Re: Package updates in the KXStudio repositories

Postby wolftune » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:25 pm

falkTX wrote:I cannot update guitarix further or its build will stop working for 18.04


like no updates ever??
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Re: Package updates in the KXStudio repositories

Postby lilith » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:19 pm

What about using Guitarix in Carla? Will this still be possible?
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Re: Package updates in the KXStudio repositories

Postby falkTX » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:52 pm

lilith wrote:What about using Guitarix in Carla? Will this still be possible?

yes

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Re: Package updates in the KXStudio repositories

Postby sysrqer » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:06 pm

bluebell wrote:
lilith wrote:Ok, so there are solutions already implemented :D


I've got the impression that the Ardour developers don't like CALF plugins :roll:

They do but they hate Tramp more :D

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Re: Package updates in the KXStudio repositories

Postby RockVice77 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:42 pm

I cannot believe it will not be possible to update Guitarix from KXStudio repo
It is one of the building blocks of the linux audio system (at least for guitarists)

Please... keep supporting it :roll:

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Re: Package updates in the KXStudio repositories

Postby tramp » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:19 am

falkTX wrote:Some small updates (I forgot to post here...)



Some notes:
guitarix was updated, up to the point it switched to curl library.
due to differences on curl ABI and packaging (libcurl3 vs libcurl4), I cannot update guitarix further or its build will stop working for 18.04


Are you sure?
Guitarix ain't depend on a special version of libcurl, and work with both.
You could build it against libcurl3, and it still work with libcurl4! (I've just done exactly that.)
Both libcurl (3 + 4) versions provide "libcurl.so.4" which is used for linking.
All you need to do is using in the dependency field of the package "libcurl3|libcurl4" instead only one version, then the version installed will be used.

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Re: Package updates in the KXStudio repositories

Postby Rodney » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:23 pm

Too bad Ardour won't display Guitarix's plugins UI anymore, I've just updated guitarix to version 0.37.3 by building it from source, and yeah it's true, unfortunately.

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Re: Package updates in the KXStudio repositories

Postby tramp » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:32 am

Rodney wrote:Too bad Ardour won't display Guitarix's plugins UI anymore, I've just updated guitarix to version 0.37.3 by building it from source, and yeah it's true, unfortunately.


When you ain't use ardour6, and I guess you ain't, but using ardour5, it's more likely you fail into this issue:
http://tracker.ardour.org/view.php?id=7209

Problem is that ardour, when download from ardour.org or from kxstudio, use older gtk/glib library's then the ones installed on your system.
So when you build guitarix yourself, you need to build ardour as well, in order to be able to use the guitarix LV2 plugin UI's.
Or, when using ardour from KxStudio, you must use guitarix from KxStudio as well, in order to use the UI's in ardour.

Alternative you could export the guitarix LV2 plugs with carla and use the exported versions, which then use the UI's as a external UI.

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Re: Package updates in the KXStudio repositories

Postby falkTX » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:34 am

Yeah, "plugins must be self-contained" cannot be stressed enough.
With gtk4 coming soon, this will get quite messy for gtk hosts and plugins...
I fully support ardour's decision here, this is really showing being "courageous" ;)


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