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Making music vidzz

Post by OccinticLady »

Hi all,
Okay, so I may need to make videos. Cheese comes to mind, webcam n cheese. Snag, the mike. I need Cheese to take the input from the music stream...
So. Any ideas on how to make a video?
As I play music, I'd like the (web)am to take the pictures and not the sound. Cheese (or...an other program) should take video from one source and audio from an other.
Can that be done?
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Why using a Webcam to record video for a music video?
Webcams aren't that good in quality of pictures.
There are plenty cheap but good action cams.
Also they don't need a computer to record the video.
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TAERSH wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:14 pm Why using a Webcam to record video for a music video?
Webcams aren't that good in quality of pictures.
There are plenty cheap but good action cams.
Also they don't need a computer to record the video.
Indeed, so, I'll have to find a camera that can use an external microphone and hook that to the output of the DAW to record the sound.
Unless that is done differently?
Still super new in the video corner :wink:
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Ok, so you want to play live and record the video AND the music?
What's the instrument playing?
What's the location?
What's the music recording program?
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OccinticLady wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:18 pm
TAERSH wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:14 pm Why using a Webcam to record video for a music video?
Webcams aren't that good in quality of pictures.
There are plenty cheap but good action cams.
Also they don't need a computer to record the video.
Indeed, so, I'll have to find a camera that can use an external microphone and hook that to the output of the DAW to record the sound.
Unless that is done differently?
Still super new in the video corner :wink:
I'm not an expert when it comes to making videos, but I came to this point too already. And I have a good message for you: You don't need a camera with a mic input. Just use any camera, could be your phones camera and record an additional audio iwth a decent track into your DAW. When you start recording, make distinguishable sound, like clapping (as they used to do in movies). That way you can can later on easily arrange your audio track along the video track. By the way, KDEnlive for example has an option to align audio automatically. You then just need to mute your cameras audio and use the audio track from your DAW instead.
And it could be even easier, if you have a camera with HDMI output for example, you should be able to record that along with the audio. OBS Studio and Reaper should be capable of doing that (haven't tried that though).
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TAERSH wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:53 pm Ok, so you want to play live and record the video AND the music?
What's the instrument playing?
What's the location?
What's the music recording program?
I play electronic instruments as shown attached in the post :smile:
It's in my "playroom" (not...one of those) that I may need to sound proof in the (near) future. At the moment, I record with Ardour...
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Hi,
IMHO to make a videoclip with cheap webcam or cheap action cams are (sorry for this but...) a great waste of time and not a great idea, with the risk of ruining the value of the music due to bad images. The result will be usefulness and you pay two times: one for the cheap and one for the more expensive equipment to obtain best results.

On my skin, I understood that good videos are never cheap in terms of cost and time. :(
This is my experience:
I tried firstly the "cheap" approach. This is an example of the result: I made this video during the quarantine, with an handy-cam and a simple home light: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xGFbrbNIl8

After that, I tried the "expensive" way, but a good camera is nothing itself, you need optics, gimbals, stabilizers, tripods, lights, sliders etc...I bought it. :oops: This is the result after I bought the equipment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqSDI398VG8

This is surely better but...........
You have seriously learn how to make interesting videos, you have to make experiences...

:roll: currently I'm trying to learn video-making and making some little experiences :lol:

This is my little 2 cents.

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There are tons of ways on how to do it of course.

I'm currently doing it with my phone, which has a pretty good camera... not the high end quality for big screens though... but for some video dump on social media it's OK.

I record the audio at the same time directly in my DAW and then I can layer the better quality sound over the video.
DAW: Reaper (works super in Linux)
Reaper is super easy to edit, lightweight and very fast.

You can add multiple videos in a grid, I found a cool script for it, via YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TlxqsAhstM

A small test video I made this week with via this way:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CazJZRZgCHk/
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I made this, with Blender, and the music in LMMS, but not sure if that is what you want:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSzceg_jTS0

I will probably never do this again. It takes a lot of time away from making music.
The vid is not a loop, that corridor is actual that long.

It also took a lot of time to render this.
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@Gps:

Wow! Nice video!

I have heard about Blender, but never saw it in action. I learned something new today :D
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SmoothMountain wrote: Sun Oct 16, 2022 1:38 am Blender, but never saw it in action.
This is pretty cool.

blendartrack - camera motion tracking workflow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQKdBNlO_bI
blendartrack - ar motion tracking for blender
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX-t1wQniew
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For making videos, one possibility is music visualization programs.

1) For abstract stuff, projectm is great. However, finding presets you like takes time, because there is so many. And for me it appears that possibility to give score for each preset does not have any effect, so even if you have scored high presets you like, you still get randomly anything. So if you don't want full random, your options are:
- Make playlist that contains only presets you want
- Have dual-screen / big screen so that you can take screenshot of projectm display and still have controls visible so that you can select manually which preset to run. This is good in that sense that you can change preset on right time: change visuals when there is change also in your music.

Personally I feel that there is many presets that don't react to audio enough.

Some random demo of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dSam8zwSFw

2) Lebiniou, https://biniou.net/ is visualizer which can use video files, webcam, images, and combine them with generated stuff. For running it there is at least these modes:
- You can run it in full random mode where effects are randomly selected
- You can manually select effects you want
- You can make your own selections of effects, and save those. And from these, you can launch them manually or let program randomly select which to pick next.

And timer of image change, colormap change and effects change can be different, so what you see can change in different ways.

It is single thread program, and with high resolution framerate goes down, sure depending what effects you use. One way to avoid this problem is to run it in batch-mode, where music is given as file, and lebiniou will generate video from it. Downside of this method is that you can't then manually select timing of effects based on where on your music you are.

Lebiniou maps all colors to grey values, and then in colormaps those grey values are mapped to colors. Meaning what ever your image or video is, it will be presented on strange colors.

Some stuff made with it:
- first one made by @lilith https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DcsqBRBIew
- Some stuff I made with pre-made combinations and then running them randomly with batch mode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f99EWNyRTHQ
- Some lebiniou stuff combined with real world videos in kdenlive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycVrgGtrBmM

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